• toastal@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    My issue will be when OSI deems something as nonfree simply for adding that NC for non-commercial labels so the corporations can’t abuse the Commons.

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      i feel like it’s okay that they do this, but i don’t like the term “source available”. maybe something like “Free for Non-Commercial Use” or “FOSS-NC”?

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        how about “non-free” because that’s what it is? Or “look but don’t touch”? Let’s put a dent in all those openwashing tendencies, completely avoid using both the “open” and “free” from these modified licenses.

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        The free software banshees will call it all proprietary… It’s not that it doesn’t make sense to draw different lines, but when folks treat OSI with a lot of reverence & if they say it doesn’t match their definition, folks want want to use it or release under these titles. “Source available” is also roped in with the we-get-a-monopoly licenses & gets knocked down a peg as if “open source” is the pinnacle of freedom despite the Commons being ransacked by corporations not giving back monetary support or contributions for the labor.

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          6 months ago

          “source available” licenses are making the commons MORE ransacked by corporations. Which direction do you want to go?

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            6 months ago

            This isn’t binary. If you shriek that all things that aren’t open source are the same, then you will miss all the nuance. There is a difference between what Redis just did & copyfair or copyfarleft or Creactive Common Non-Comercial are suggesting.

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              6 months ago

              @toastal I don’t need to compare each license to each other and get lost in wicked little words, arguing with anonymous accounts on the internet. I can instead see which change was a move towards, or away from, a world ransacked by corporations. That is clearly binary. Would you argue that Redis made the world less ransacked by their license change?

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                6 months ago

                Redis isn’t doing what I would like to see more of in the world. Kicking out the profit & capital is not the same as trying to maintain your monopoly like Redis. Open source has often failed us… & instead we see compromises like AGPL which is restricting the “4 Freedoms” due to corporate exploitation. It’s a form of weak copyfarleft as far as I am concerned & everyone knows its license is a bit weird, but not looking at the root cause which isn’t network usage, but general exploitation from the capitalists.