• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      They’re a monopoly. I don’t feel bad blocking ads from a monopolist that monetizes my data whether or not I block their ads.

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        In this case, they are a monopoly because they are the only company that even wants to try and make something as massive as youtube work.

        But, regardless: It is fine to not “feel bad” about running an adblocker. Just don’t “feel bad” when youtube runs a you-blocker as a result.

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          Just like “they” were free to harvest personal data unless the user was able to block it, I’m going to freely watch YouTube unless they’re able to block me. Of course I’m going to feel bad if they manage to block me and that’s going to incentivize me to find a different way of accessing YouTube until there’s no paths left and then I’ll simply stop using the platform.

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          They are not the only company to try, they are however the only company simply allowed to do it. Go ahead, try to start your own database, host peoples videos, see how quickly you’re either forced to sell, or litigated out of a business.

          Please do continue to tell us how YouTube being a monopoly is purely a choice, and not by design.

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            I mean… plenty of youtubers and channels are doing exactly that. Ian McCollum (Forgotten Weapons) and the “educational” gun youtubers have History of Weapons and War. A bunch of creators did Nebula. Corridor Digital have their channel. That comedy channel that came from college humor have their own site? Same with those two channels that pissed everyone off in the past few weeks? And Linus Media Group have been trying to add “we run a shitty version of youtube” to their grift for years now. And Rooster Teeth and Giant Bomb had their own video site for basically the entirety of their runs.

            Let alone stuff like Utreon and the other one. And then there are the various successors to liveleak that are basically about spamming yu with an insane amount of spyware and ads in exchange for letting you upload faces of death.

            And while I think it is a fundamentally flawed idea that mostly just does the legwork for those sites to run the software: Peertube is a thing and there are plenty of instances that exist.

            So I am REALLY curious what evil organization you think is waiting to kill anything that is not made by Youtube. If you comply with DMCA requests and don’t host CSAM then it is just a function of whether you can afford it.

            Which… is the real issue. There is just a ridiculous volume of storage and bandwidth required for even a “small” youtube. Which is why almost all of the successful “alternatives” only really host a very small subset of videos.

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          If Google is a monopoly (it’s not), it’s only a monopoly because they’ve cornered the market through previously good service. Now they’re using this power to inflict larger and larger amounts of time theft, brainwashing, etc. It is actually good to block this trash and “evil” to profit from it.

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            If Google is a monopoly (it’s not)

            The US DOJ doesn’t agree with you, they’re in the midst of suing them for antitrust.

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            “Time theft” is very questionable and more a topic for society as a whole but…

            Okay? Then don’t watch youtube. Rather than allow them to engage in “time theft” but calling yourself smart because you don’t watch ads.

            Also: As has been pointed out repeatedly in this thread, the scale of Youtube (and Twitch) is massive and truly hard to comprehend. The only companies that even have a snowball’s chance of running that are Google, Amazon, and MS because they ALSO have giant “cloud” services. And… it is pretty clear none of them really know how to run a site like that (hence why MS just gave up entirely).

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      I want to watch the videos that people created. None of that belongs to Google. Google is just an increasingly aggressive leech in the middle.