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    7 months ago

    Taliban is a very admirable group in their fight against a foreing invader. If you want people there to have a mentality that no longer condems individuals for their sexuality, they need to develop economically first. I think its naive to belive that an agricultural country set back in development many years by a foreing invasion will have any kind of progressive mindset. And no ecomic development will occur under invasion and war. So if theres any chance for a progressive mindset to come for the people there in the future, its path starts with the fight taliban did, even if they are against it themselves.

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      I get what you’re saying, but commending a group that is currently running fascistic, theocratic, totalitarian government for repelling an invading force isn’t exactly the talking point you want it to be.

      Not to once again prove Godwin’s law, but it’s like saying “Hitler may have nearly eradicated all the Jews, but he brought Germany out of spiraling hyperinflation!” You may have a point, but no one’s going to listen closely enough to prevent them from interpreting your statement as an endorsement of Hitler.

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        isn’t exactly the talking point you want it to be.

        It is. The history of the country changed because of what they did. It was an historical event

        but it’s like saying

        Absolutely not. Taliban was fighting a foreing invasor, Hitler commited genocide, among many other things. If you grossly look at the casualities there, you could argue that the USA genocided afghan people. Tbh this is stretch you did really looks like bad faith, overlooked reality for the sake of argument

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          I’m not saying I think you’re endorsing the Taliban; I’m saying that people won’t read that closely into what you’re saying and THINK you are.

          And even though the Taliban aren’t committing genocide (which I never said they were, I should’ve been clearer that the Hitler example was hyperbole for the sake of making a point), the human rights violations their government is committing are reprehensible. That’s why it’s an issue to say “they were just protecting their homeland”: they kicked foreign invaders off their land to treat their own citizens just as poorly (if in different ways). It looks like you’re taking up for a group that’s pretty worthy of villainization.

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            a group that’s pretty worthy of villainization.

            Afghanistan was destroyed and made into a giant papoula plantation in order to supply the heroin that goes to the USA. Why would you villanize the group that fought against that? Only in a fantasy world a progressive pro lgbtqi+ woman rights group could emerge in a country like Afghanistan during war. I do understand the various problems that taliban have, but they are the real ppl fighting to free their country, not the ideal ppl we imagine they could be