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      Why ask questions about something completely irrelevsnt?

      Trump’s kids were in the news because they had postitions in his administration and were potentionally going to get into politics. Hunter has zero relevance for Biden’s administration and has no interest in politics. Whether peolle would vote for Hunter is just a lame attempt to both sides completely different things.

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      People who think this way are either behaving irrationally or don’t understand electoral strategy. I will always vote for the better of the two candidates in the current system. If it was Trump vs Hitler, well damn, I guess I’m voting for Trump. It’s not an endorsement of anyone, it’s simply a matter of how to minimize the harm of the current system.

      By the way, Trump supports genocide more than Biden, so if that’s your key issue, you should vote for Biden.

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      While I see your point, it hinges on voting for Hunter Biden in lieu of Trump. I can’t say I would – I know little of Hunter Biden’s policy stances --, but I find it very far fetched to believe Hunter would get the nomination over another democratic politician, so it seems like the argument is pointless.

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        but I find it very far fetched to believe Hunter would get the nomination over another democratic politician

        And Doc Brown was surprised Ronald Reagan ran. I was surprised Hillary came back in 2016 after 08, I was surprised trump was a candidate in 16, 20, and 24. I was surprised Biden was the nomine in 2020 when he’d been trying to win a presidential primary since 1988 and never made it to the general.

        The party has been openly saying for like a decade they can not only rig the primary, they can just ignore results and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them

        I’m just wondering what your think will change where all of a sudden candidates stop getting worse.

        And why your line for Hunter is “smoked crack, lied about it, admitted it”.

        While Biden is literally funding and assisting with a genocide, while lying about it and breaking US and international law. And is committing the same human rights abuses at our border, that we all complained about when Trump did.

        Like, c’mon man. It’s just crack…

        You think crack is worse than genocide and human rights abuses that are in violation of US and international law?

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          And Doc Brown was surprised Ronald Reagan ran.

          You know that movie was a work of fiction and that was a joke, right?

          Reagan had already been heavily involved in politics by 1955. He wasn’t running for office yet, but it wouldn’t have been a surprise at all. The only thing Doc Brown would have been surprised about was that Reagan supported things like nuclear escalation and was so against labor unions during his presidency.

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          You keep bringing up Genocide like it’s a factor?

          Trump not only supports but encourages it. And wants to bring it here against the evil brown people…

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      would you really not vote for him if he was the Dem nominee?

      Absolutely. I prefer my lawmakers to not be convicted criminals.

      Though, if your hypothetical had both candidates being convicted criminals, then I’d have to look closer at the alternatives, as well as examine how damaging the 2 criminals are likely to be going forward, shoukd they gain power.

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        convicted

        Is that the important part?

        Because, again, Biden is openly breaking US and international law and despite a shit ton of evidence, he just keeps denying it

        We ratified it way back in 1988, the first year Biden tried to be president actually, so you’d think he’d remember it.

        International law: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention

        US law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/2304

        So do you deny that he’s providing aid to a nation committing a genocide?

        Or are you ok with it until he’s convicted and then it’s an issue?

        Because man, I don’t know how you haven’t noticed, but it’s pretty fucking hard to convict a president.

        And if my choice was Hunter or Joe, I’d prefer the recovered crack user to the guy actively assisting in a genocide but won’t admit it’s a genocide.

        Lesser of two evils, right?

        How many dead innocent children has each Biden caused? I don’t think Hunter has been responsible for any deaths…

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          I’m not willing to blame Biden for Netanyahu’s crimes.

          There is no president in my lifetime that would have treated Israel signifigantly less kindly than the current administration has.

          Lesser of two evils, right?

          Yes, actually. Trump absolutely would have continued sucking up to the Israeligovernment, rather than attempting to have the combatants negotiate a cease fire.

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            I’m not willing to blame Biden for Netanyahu’s crimes

            Providing material aid to a genocide is against US and international law tho…

            Like, if you admit there’s a genocide going on, and you admit Biden is providing aid despite evidence of the genocide…

            There’s not really any room for Biden to have not committed a crime.

            So, Hunter is the “least of three evils”, and I was trying to find out why so many people consider him worse than his dad.

            It doesn’t make logical sense.

            Which is probably why no one has seriously tried to explain why Hunter is bad but Joe is fine.

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              There were good points to be made from the angle you’re taking, but I think you might be getting lost in the weeds here

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          And if your choice was Trump or Biden? What a stupid hypothetical “Hunter or Joe”. Come on out and directly say you’ll support Trump. All your word salad is basically saying “vote for Trump” or “don’t bother voting because both sides”.

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          Again, Trump has PROMISED worse.

          So how does genocide factor into your decision making?

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      How much cocaine did GWB do? He was already elected president after admitting it.

      So why not?

      Hunter Biden is clearly well hung and fucks. That’s 2/3 of the requirements to be president right there.

      (The last is be rich so Hunter Biden 2028?)

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        I legitimately want to know why this is so disqualifying to people.

        We’d have to go pretty far back for this to be inexcusable for a member if either party.

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          Why is a felony used to deny their right to vote?

          Because using felony convictions to punish people can easily be weaponized against minorities. They can also be ignored when it comes to rich white guys.

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      Writing one sentence per paragraph.

      Does not make you profound.

      Or convince anyone of anything.

      All it does is make it impossible to read.

      And take up a lot of space.

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      “let me imagine a fictional universe to get mad at”

      usually people just make up a fake type of guy to be mad at

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      If you could eat food from the pantry of a really rich person, but that person was a proponent of the holocaust, would you?

      I mean since we’re talking about things not remotely related to the topic, why not ask you something as well.

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      I don’t think your examples work. Hillary Clinton was also previously a Senator and Secretary of State, so she had experience in national politics. Joe Biden was Vice President and a Senator so he also had decades of experience.

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      So you expect Republicans to stop supporting terrible candidates but expect Democrats to support terrible candidates?

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        What?

        Currently republicans are supporting terrible candidates, have been for decades…

        but expect Democrats to support terrible candidates?

        We’re currently running someone breaking US and international laws by providing munitions that are being used ina genocide…

        Someone that even went around Congress to avoid a delay of just a couple days.

        In my eyes, Hunter is the lesser of two evils when comparing him and his dad.

        So I was hoping to understand why people say they’d never vote for a (recovered btw) crack addict.

        Like, finally you all really think what Hunter did years ago is worse than what Joe is doing today?

        Im not getting answers, just insults.

        Which is disappointing, but not surprising anymore.

        The right wings of both parties seem to have went off the deep end a long time ago. Which would be fine, except they were both driving the bus when they did it