Trump found something he’s really good at. The Gish Gallop technique in a debate. An absolute natural. With no moderators fact-checking, and the opponent with a silenced mic, he just ignores the questions, and lies in rapid sequence like a Gatling gun so his opponent has no chance of responding, challenging, or you know, debating.
A quick-thinking opponent could absolutely counter it. She could say “Hey, Donald, you didn’t answer the question. It had nothing to do with immigration. Let me answer it for you. Your position is X, Y, and Z, which is bad for Americans. Mine is A, B, and C, which is good.”
Not that im challenging what you’re saying, I’m having difficulty understanding how that doesn’t directly counter the Gish Gallop technique effectively.
Could you elaborate? And what would be the ideal way to combat that technique in your opinion?
No I will not elaborate and furthermore how dare you say this has nothing to do with immigration. You say my policies are this or that but Illegal immigration is one of the biggliest issues our nation is facing today. My policies are simply the best in the world and infallible. Are you trying to steal the election by changing the subject to something completely unrelated to what I want to say? Are you trying to silence me? I will not stop talking about whatever I feel like in any way that streams into what counts for my brain so you have no chance to respond or make an appeal to the masses not to listen to my incoherent rambling. You low socioeconomic peasant.
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Thats how it wouldn’t work. You can’t counter gish gallop by trying to disprove anything they said because they don’t care about any of it. About any of it being real or accurate or sane.
Try to counter or disprove any of it and they will replace it with 12 more lies which you cannot possibly disprove all of in the short amount of time you may have to respond.
Really the only way to deal with it is to not engage at all. Deliver your points and try to make an appeal to ignore the gish gallopping one trick pony.
The basic principle is that every false statement from trump is a point. You can’t rebut them all because it takes longer to refute a lie than it does to make it.
Your strategy is logical and if a winner was chosen on the basis of logical, well supported answers to questions then it would be a successful strategy - but sadly the winner is chosen just based on the vibe.
Also, the bothsiderist “liberal” media would likely say that if someone were to actually counter all the Gish Gallop and then somehow make their own points, that they were too “overprepared” - coming across as knowing things is perceived as “bad” to a lot of idiots and improper moderation and awful framing from our corporate media makes it worse.
Trump found something he’s really good at. The Gish Gallop technique in a debate. An absolute natural. With no moderators fact-checking, and the opponent with a silenced mic, he just ignores the questions, and lies in rapid sequence like a Gatling gun so his opponent has no chance of responding, challenging, or you know, debating.
A quick-thinking opponent could absolutely counter it. She could say “Hey, Donald, you didn’t answer the question. It had nothing to do with immigration. Let me answer it for you. Your position is X, Y, and Z, which is bad for Americans. Mine is A, B, and C, which is good.”
Can Joe do that?
That’s not really how a gish gallop works though.
Yes your suggested response would be better than biden’s, but trump would still be the perceived winner.
Not that im challenging what you’re saying, I’m having difficulty understanding how that doesn’t directly counter the Gish Gallop technique effectively.
Could you elaborate? And what would be the ideal way to combat that technique in your opinion?
No I will not elaborate and furthermore how dare you say this has nothing to do with immigration. You say my policies are this or that but Illegal immigration is one of the biggliest issues our nation is facing today. My policies are simply the best in the world and infallible. Are you trying to steal the election by changing the subject to something completely unrelated to what I want to say? Are you trying to silence me? I will not stop talking about whatever I feel like in any way that streams into what counts for my brain so you have no chance to respond or make an appeal to the masses not to listen to my incoherent rambling. You low socioeconomic peasant.
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Thats how it wouldn’t work. You can’t counter gish gallop by trying to disprove anything they said because they don’t care about any of it. About any of it being real or accurate or sane.
Try to counter or disprove any of it and they will replace it with 12 more lies which you cannot possibly disprove all of in the short amount of time you may have to respond.
Really the only way to deal with it is to not engage at all. Deliver your points and try to make an appeal to ignore the gish gallopping one trick pony.
The basic principle is that every false statement from trump is a point. You can’t rebut them all because it takes longer to refute a lie than it does to make it.
Your strategy is logical and if a winner was chosen on the basis of logical, well supported answers to questions then it would be a successful strategy - but sadly the winner is chosen just based on the vibe.
Also, the bothsiderist “liberal” media would likely say that if someone were to actually counter all the Gish Gallop and then somehow make their own points, that they were too “overprepared” - coming across as knowing things is perceived as “bad” to a lot of idiots and improper moderation and awful framing from our corporate media makes it worse.
Yes. But then your two minutes are over. God I hated like every rule of that debate I’m realizing…
Yes he can. If he practices it. Maybe his staff should advise him of that.
Probably not 😕