• Stamets@lemmy.worldM
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    5 months ago

    All Trek is equal.

    With the exception of Code of Honor and that racist ass shit they wrote for Chakotay

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      5 months ago

      Is there anyone who dislikes Lower Decks? I’d say LD is more equal than the others.

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        5 months ago

        Ok so literally not what you’re after, because I do like LD.

        However, sometimes it feels a bit too Rick and Mortyish for my taste. Mariner could shout “Wubalubadubdub haha, amarite guys??” and it would seem completely in character both with her and the show.

        I guess it makes a lot of sense considering they poached some talent from the R&M team, and LD was greenlit after executives saw how popular R&M was (the same is true for multiple other sci-fi comedy cartoons).

        I still like it, but I can’t sit and watch like 4 episodes in one sitting like I could with DS9 or SNW.

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          I’ve never watched Rick And Morty, but I find the constant reference humour to be very grating. I’ve come to appreciate the characters but also can’t get excited about it like most of the other series. I’d definitely rate it in the bottom half of Trek shows.

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        Yes. There are people on this community who frequently complain about the show. One dude was outright banned because he refused to accept LD as canon or any animated show as canon while being hyper dismissive and aggressive about that stance.

        They’re out there and they’re not that unicorn-esque. They just generally don’t say anything because they don’t want to go against the grain. Same reason why the people who loathe Discovery are multiple factors louder than the fans. Anytime I said I liked Discovery on reddit I got jumped by every Trekkie who claimed that I clearly wasn’t a real fan.

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        Hello, I am the unicorn. I don’t resent LD per se, but I hate “adult cartoons” aka crude pseudo intellectual, cynical humor. I understand other people like it, but for me it is just not real trek, both tonally and the cartoon medium itself (TAS can get fucked as well).

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        I really dislike lower decks. I find it annoying and lacking in ideas. I feel exactly the same about Final Space the previous show by the creator.

        That said I don’t think it’s bad or not very “Star Trek”. It just completely grates on me.

        To contrast I really like TOS, TNG, and DS9. I thought VGR and ENT felt “Star Trek” but badly written. DSC and PIC are badly written and don’t feel “Star Trek” to me. I’ve herd the final PIC season is pretty good so I’ll give it a shot at some point.

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        I couldn’t make it through the first episode because it’s direly inane. Like, it’s aggressively vapid and everything I hear about it reinforces that opinion. I mostly just avoid that stuff so instead of being there making a show of how much I hate that show, I’m just… not? I think that’s maybe why you think we’re unicorns: could be you just don’t see us because we don’t hang out around the thing you expect to see us disliking. Kinda makes sense from another perspective, I think.

        That or the rest all got banned or bullied out or something for having unapproved feelings regarding series deemed important. Idunno. Kinda tired of it being a religious issue.

      • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Yes, it’s the least Star Trek I’ve seen so far. I couldn’t make it past maybe the 2nd or 3rd episode. Much preferred Final Space if we’re going for that kind of show.

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      5 months ago

      All Trek is equal.

      Yo them’s fighting words Stamets. Obviously Year of Hell is above all the rest.

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            Rewatching ds9, the visitor was well done. (It’s a tearjerker)