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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
Saw this in passing earlier and I just laughed
Until indicated otherwise Iām going to presume it was some bizbro PM/PO/whatever pushing it because they really think it should be there āto be able to competeā (because of some laughably idiotic misunderstanding of their own value proposition and pitch)
Tangent: while I mostly run my own servers and services I did a recent assay on whoās reasonable for service shit. Proton kept popping up massively recommended while some occasional critical mentions from folks in anarchist circles, etc - made me a bit š¤Ø and want to dig in more, but also just their product offerings arenāt great. Others I poked into are fastmail and tuta - both seem a fair bit better. Might be worth a look
No surprise that folks in anarchist circles are skeptical of Proton ha. That said, I do know quite a few people in the email āindustryā who are broadly skeptical of Protonās general philosophy/approach to email security, and the way they market their service/offerings.
Fastmail has a great interface and user experience imo, significantly better than any other web client Iāve tried. That said, theyāre not end-to-end encrypted, so theyāre not really trying to fill the same niche as Proton/Tuta.
From their website:
I honestly donāt know enough to separate the wheat from the chaff here (I can barely write functional python scripts lol - so please chime in if Iām completely off base), but this comes across to me as an understandable (and fairly honest) compromise, that is probably adequate for some threat models?
Last time I used Tuta the user experience was pretty clunky, but afaik it is E2EE, so itās probably a better direct alternative to Proton.
re fastmail, david mentioned a thing I wasnāt aware of so theyāre off the list now, more or less just going to forget they exist except as a counter-recommendation
theyāre sorta saying āyeah just use external GPG like beforeā
albeit I will say their reasoning is a bit fucked in the head imo: that āif you canāt trust the serverā shit applies equally for whether itās serving you up the page elements to do message cryptography, or whether itās serving you up a normal webmail client. I think I know/understand where they meant to go with it, but the wording they picked is quite shit
I set up a tuta domain for a thing about a month ago. it couldāve been a bit smoother (esp. domain/dns state checks) but I didnāt find anything immediately jarringly bad - and I was even drunk at the time (which means my diy-able supergrump comes out about this sort of shit). will see how it goes over some longer use :)