Court documents reveal a former OceanGate employee had several safety complaints over the tourist submersible—and then he was fired.
Oh, the delicious irony that the CEO was on board…
King of fuck around and find out
Huh, thats new to me.
And i couldn’t find it in the linked article,
am i blind or are you referencing a different article?Thanks, Oh wow.
After reading all the articles,
about how it was clear to the company that the sub was an obvious deathtrap,
im genuinely supprised the ceo was dumb / bold enough to actually board it himself.Thats an almost biblical level of
“fuck around and find out”one thing we’ve learned about most billionaires is they arent very smart and surround themselves completely with ‘yes people’. And they also seem to have almost no ability to assess risk, like buying business that they personally know almost nothing about, like twitter and submarines.
One thing I’ve noticed from working at several tech companies is that people who present themselves as “entrepreneurs” are often just deficient in their appreciation of risk, but lucky so far. Risk is a kind of blind spot for some people, but if it comes with luck others will perceive them as bold rather than a bit deficient. To those who work with them, however, the truth is often obvious.
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Well oceangate is now toast.
Regardless of whether the people on board are found, they’re going to be facing expensive lawsuits from both the billionaires’ estates.
If they ever find his body they can put “safety just is pure waste” on his headstone.
With an attitude like this, what could possibly go wrong?
The ol’ All Or Nothing approach!
“At some point, safety just is pure waste.”
Cool. Let’s have each and every person on the planet draw their own subjective, arbitrary line on what “unnecessary safety” is for oneself AND OTHERS.
So go ahead, FILL your house with asbestos! I mean… it’s not like you’re going to live forever anyway, amirite!It’s precisely because of idiots like these why we need government watchdogs. He’s the one-millionth greedy impatient miser millionaire to try and make a point, yet ended up proving the exact opposite.
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the submersible was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate intended to take passengers down to depths of 4,000 meters.
Fry: How many atmospheres can the ship withstand?
Professor: Well, it’s a spaceship, so I’d say anywhere between zero and one.
Oh…I didn’t realize until now that there were actual people on board. All the headlines said the submarine itself was missing and I wasn’t interested enough to click.
I love this comment.
Damn. Is there realistically any chance of those people being located and rescued in time?
Supposedly there is oxygen for 4 days, so it it is in tact and they can get it to the surface by early Thursday, maybe.
But more likely there was a structural failure and they are all dead, crushed by the extreme depth.
The sudden lose of communication to me screams catastrophic structural failure…
In which case, there wouldn’t even be time to scream…
It wasn’t really sudden. Best they had was text messages that were occurring at a 15 minute interval. They stopped 1:45 into the dive.
They waited until 30 minutes after they were supposed to be back to report it missing (which I think is standard)
They had two communication systems. They had the text messaging and an automated “ping” that went every 15 minutes. Both stopped suddenly at 1:45.
Quote from apnews
“There are only two things that could mean. Either they lost all power or the ship developed a hull breach and it imploded instantly.”
I read an analysis of scenarios for the sub, and the best case is that they had a power failure but managed to surface. This is plausible because if something went wrong they would just need to drop their weights and float up naturally.
In that case, they’re floating somewhere on the surface without communications and just need to be spotted.
But even that isn’t a good situation because the ocean is ginormous and the sub is locked from the outside, so they’re still limited to another day and a half of air supply.
If they’re alive but under the surface, the search is nearly hopeless.
If that were the case they would have some sort of emergency transponder on board. They are 100% crushed.
I read an analysis of scenarios for the sub, and the best case is that they had a power failure but managed to surface. This is plausible because if something went wrong they would just need to drop their weights and float up naturally.
I’m not sure dropping the weights would help from that depth. There’s a point at which the pressure of the water above you cancels out any buoyancy lifting you up. It’s not even that super deep for divers; I don’t know what it is for a duct-tape-and-zip-tied backyard-crafted submarine, though.
I think it depends on what depth they are at. You have to depressurize and you need time to do that.
If it’s still water-tight, occupants wouldn’t need to decompress since the interior is still near atmospheric pressure. If it leaked at 13,000 ft… the bends are the least of their worries.
ooo you’re right! Thanks for the catch!
the submersible was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate intended to take passengers down to depths of 4,000 meters.
I think it’s too late before they reached the Titanic.
OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required depth of 4,000 meters.
Well at least they saved some money.