• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Honesty is not a conservative trait. It never has been.

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        Ignorant fear breaks and shatters a lot of things around itself. Among the first things to go are character and ethics. And with that, any mental gymnastics are allowed so as to NOT go anywhere near Truth.

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        No, it’s primarily hatred. They great what they hate. The decency in conservatives I’ve known is skin-deep. Spend enough time with them, they’ll show you who they really are…

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        My entire lifetime conservative === Republican. And they’ve been lying, fear mongering and cheating as long as I’ve been alive.

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            It’s not about their different politics though. It’s about them being dishonest liars who’ll say or do whatever they need to in the moment to accomplish end they want.

            Newt Gingrich was a lying piece of shit before Trump was even a blip on the radar.

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              I don’t disagree with that either … but maga people were newt people.

              But it’s important to not make categorical errors… Many conservative Americans aren’t like that. (Maybe a small many, but still)

              If you actually want the Dems to win the election, then you should be correct in your language. Otherwise you hand the other side votes.

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                maga people were newt people

                Disagree, they may have been predecessors but as I said Trump wasn’t even a blip on the radar yet. You might as well say Grover Norquist was a MAGAt. If we’re tracing the toxicity back we can go all the way back to FDR. The right is a party of failed policies and incorrect theories, full stop.

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                  You are not understanding me.

                  I’m saying the people who are dumb enough to fall for populist bullshit and lies… and never check the evidence themselves… fall for both of these conmen.

                  But there are conservative Americans that don’t also. It’s not hard to understand. Accurate language is important.

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                    I understand very well that you’re trying play the No True Scotsman card.

                    85% of Conservative comgresspeople signed Norquists tax pledge by 2012 and Gingrich led the “Republican Revolution” in 1994, they’re all like this. The ones you think “don’t” sure seem to support the same policies as the ones who do, they’re just quieter about it.

                    If you’re unhappy with how the Republican party is perceived I’d recommend leaving it as it’s corrupt to the core and the only people still involved are grifters and useful idiots.

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        Fun experiment! I tried it with “progressives”, “undecided” and even “socialists”, but none of them worked.

        In fact, so far, only “conservatives” and “Republicans” seem to fit properly in that phrase. Neat!

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          I’ll bet you there’s a lot of people who would disagree with you. Just because you’re only saying it about YOUR most hated group doesn’t mean they’re not saying it about you

          And you’re both wrong. I wish we would stop being so immature.

          Tit for Tat. You hate them=they hate you. They kill you=you kill them. Hate and kill. Fight for everything, it’s like a schoolyard. Someone almost assassinated one of theirs? GREAT!

          Who’s going to be the grown-ups here?

          Let me guess. THEY HAVE TO START FIRST!

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            I’ll bet you there’s a lot of people who would disagree with you.

            Nah. Even conservatives are aware they are famous for deception and manipulation. Their statements regarding the honesty of others are not to be trusted, as every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.

            Just because you’re only saying it about YOUR most hated group…

            I never claimed to hate anyone.

            doesn’t mean they’re not saying it about you.

            The words of a conservative can be disregarded out of hand, as they are always deception or manipulation.

            Your comment then goes on about killing, an assasination and grown-ups, which is all irrelevant to my observation about the dishonesty of conservatives.