Too bad for Texas that the constitution outlines that only the federal government has the right to deal with other countries. Both the Treaty Clause and Logan Act cover this base. Texas is wrong.
Texas has much bigger problems they should be dealing with. Having a reliable grid should be a much bigger priority than the border, but Texas would rather kill people (at the border, or just in their own homes during a snowstorm) than fix their actual problems.
The Border Patrol and Customs (in the Department of Homeland Security) is actually responsible for securing borders. States do not get to decide how their borders are enforced.
We all have to deal with illegal immigration, most of which doesn’t even happen on the southern border. We manage to do it without building death traps or tricking people into getting on busses and sending them to states we don’t like.
I know Texas and Abbot think they’re special but they’re wrong.
We have plenty of those domestically already. People are people, and y’all qaeda down there isn’t exactly the shining example of civilization you think it is.
https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says (The Cato institute is a libertarian institute. Libertarian should mean socially liberal, including more friendly with immigrants and more towards open borders, but they’re usually conservative.)
I’m not going to spend all day finding you more. It’s easy to research. I doubt it matters how many sources I provide, but you can find whichever ones you like. There’s plenty of data on it.
Ah yes, a person’s value as a human being is reduced to nothing the second they cross an imaginary line decided by folks that have long since died. Makes perfect sense. /s
I share your sentiment however despite the “looks” the actual line does not matter much. It’s about what you have to do to gain rights. Is traveling across some line and being desperate enough to grant this person rights? (Like right to work/live in some community/country)? Or are some additional hoops needed? If they’re needed why should anybody allow other people rights just for traveling across the line? Isn’t it unfair to these who spent years of work trying to go through proper procedure? Maybe it’s okay if somebody is desperate? But then what is the measure of “desperate” - it’s a pretty unclear term.
The vast majority of illegal immigration is done by people overstaying visas. Take you’re racist uninformed and sickening list for injury and death and shove it up your ass
That’s a very simplistic and apathetic response to a human being dying …
I bet you support the death penalty for people that steal a loaf of bread to feed their children as well.
The reality is that it’s a very complex issue and while Texas has the right to secure it’s borders a humans right to live is a little more important me thinks.
Suffered the consequences of what, exactly? The consequences of being born into a world that doesn’t provide for them? The consequences of unequal access to opportunity?
Guess then we should get to shoving some consequences your way for being a dick. Your speech is harmful, and you don’t deserve clean food or water or a warm place to sleep.
Get our of here with your garbage. Your life is not more valuable than ANYONE elses.
Ah yes, why don’t they just use those vague programs you alluded to?
I’m sure you can tell all of us what those programs are and how easy they are to be eligible/apply through. Right? I mean certainly you know what these programs are and wouldn’t just be assuming they’re in place and functional. After all, a blatant assumption like that would make you an utter jackass if it turned out those programs weren’t actually available for everyone or were needlessly restrictive/difficult.
Imagine swimming in a river in your own country and then you get caught up in a net and die while still in your country due to Texas illegally setting up their own border wall that isn’t even in Texas anymore. Texas should should hire this guy to go to the river and whenever kids drown trying to just enjoy themselves he is there but always wait 5 minutes to make sure the Mexicans drowned since he obviously hates them and then unties them, bring them up to shore, and then yell this in their face. I think he would gladly take the job all the while moving back and fourth illegally from the Mexico and Texas border just to yell at dead Mexicans
I can’t imagine what situation you grew up in to have so much hate in your heart. What you and a shit to of racists don’t understand is that if we had all the immigrants in America disappear, the labor force, and crops for example would shit the bed so fast. The immigrants all do the jobs you fuckers won’t do and you don’t actually care enough to learn on how much of the country they hold on their back. It’s always simple though, instead of actual being about “America” and filling the gaps you would just complain someone else needs to do these high labor intensive jobs
First off you’re so dumb dude. How about instead of intentionally killing others in an absolutely beautiful river we just enjoy it? Ever thought that idk, maybe, some of them genuinely just wanted a swim?
The more important part is that since you are so ‘MERICA🦅⛪🙏’ then why are you okay with these deaths while they are completely illegal and dong follow the constitution? Referenced
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I mean i figure since youre okay with that ill just go ahead and completely ignore laws to do whatever the hell i want to do. When did the constitution just become another ‘woke’ book to you that should be ignored?
You keep ignoring over half of my comments. Do you really think Texas of all places would put a buoy with a net but not create the net in such a way that it would tangle someone up? Are there any warnings about there being nets? How would you feel if Mexico set something that long up in the river but 80% of it was across the border?
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Yes and it’s causing deaths (it has nets under it), so the US govt is not best pleased.
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Too bad for Texas that the constitution outlines that only the federal government has the right to deal with other countries. Both the Treaty Clause and Logan Act cover this base. Texas is wrong.
Their current solution illegally crosses the border itself.
Texas has much bigger problems they should be dealing with. Having a reliable grid should be a much bigger priority than the border, but Texas would rather kill people (at the border, or just in their own homes during a snowstorm) than fix their actual problems.
But hey, that’s the republican MO.
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Killing people with buoy saws and nets is absolutely not a partisan issue. What is that we’re discussing here, again?
There’s an easy way to avoid the murder buoy saws called “stop crossing the border illegally”.
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The vast majority of illegal immigrants overstay their visas. You’re looking at the southern border, you should be looking at airports
You seriously think Texas has to deal with more immigration than the entirety of the rest of the U.S.?
Critical thinking really needs to be taught in school.
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The Border Patrol and Customs (in the Department of Homeland Security) is actually responsible for securing borders. States do not get to decide how their borders are enforced.
We all have to deal with illegal immigration, most of which doesn’t even happen on the southern border. We manage to do it without building death traps or tricking people into getting on busses and sending them to states we don’t like.
I know Texas and Abbot think they’re special but they’re wrong.
I mean, states DO get to determine a hell of a lot about their borders.
Immigration mostly isn’t one, though.
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In the water, so anyone trying to swim across would drown.
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I would rather have any number of undocumented immigrants here than people like you.
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I honestly don’t know if you’re referring to illegal immigrants or the police in America.
I’m more worried about the police killing me than an illegal immigrant, but that’s because I live in the real world.
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The US, actually. Then exported to Central America by irresponsible US deportations.
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Mexico, but where is the blue badge gang from?
One of them is a real threat to average Americans, and hint: it isn’t ms13.
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We have plenty of those domestically already. People are people, and y’all qaeda down there isn’t exactly the shining example of civilization you think it is.
Big words coming from a guy who lives in a country where your own citizens are gunning down others every day multiple times per day.
Maybe try to fix your own country first instead of blaming others?
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Then fix your gun laws
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Immigrants are, on average, less violent and more productive than the average American. I say we toss you out and trade up.
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Sure. Here’s a few: https://news.wisc.edu/undocumented-immigrants-far-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-in-u-s-than-citizens/
https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says (The Cato institute is a libertarian institute. Libertarian should mean socially liberal, including more friendly with immigrants and more towards open borders, but they’re usually conservative.)
I’m not going to spend all day finding you more. It’s easy to research. I doubt it matters how many sources I provide, but you can find whichever ones you like. There’s plenty of data on it.
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Wait, when did we start talking about police?
Ah yes, a person’s value as a human being is reduced to nothing the second they cross an imaginary line decided by folks that have long since died. Makes perfect sense. /s
I share your sentiment however despite the “looks” the actual line does not matter much. It’s about what you have to do to gain rights. Is traveling across some line and being desperate enough to grant this person rights? (Like right to work/live in some community/country)? Or are some additional hoops needed? If they’re needed why should anybody allow other people rights just for traveling across the line? Isn’t it unfair to these who spent years of work trying to go through proper procedure? Maybe it’s okay if somebody is desperate? But then what is the measure of “desperate” - it’s a pretty unclear term.
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“Hey man I’m not too stoked on ice cream”
“What do you have against brownies???”
That’s what you sound like.
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Depends on the room. Anyone here posting from the DMZ?
Trying to move somewhere for a better life for your family, your sentence is death.
Get a fucking grip.
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Sure, but that doesn’t change the fact that you thinking someone deserves death for an illegal border crossing shows how fucked your mindset is
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What a meaningless and cynical cliche
You sound like a meal team sixer
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The vast majority of illegal immigration is done by people overstaying visas. Take you’re racist uninformed and sickening list for injury and death and shove it up your ass
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Speaking of the law, it’s only a civil violation, fash.
@Tb0n3
@livus @superkret @themeatbridge
That’s a very simplistic and apathetic response to a human being dying …
I bet you support the death penalty for people that steal a loaf of bread to feed their children as well.
The reality is that it’s a very complex issue and while Texas has the right to secure it’s borders a humans right to live is a little more important me thinks.
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Suffered the consequences of what, exactly? The consequences of being born into a world that doesn’t provide for them? The consequences of unequal access to opportunity?
Guess then we should get to shoving some consequences your way for being a dick. Your speech is harmful, and you don’t deserve clean food or water or a warm place to sleep.
Get our of here with your garbage. Your life is not more valuable than ANYONE elses.
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Academic language does not shelter you from the consequences of your speech.
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Ah yes, why don’t they just use those vague programs you alluded to?
I’m sure you can tell all of us what those programs are and how easy they are to be eligible/apply through. Right? I mean certainly you know what these programs are and wouldn’t just be assuming they’re in place and functional. After all, a blatant assumption like that would make you an utter jackass if it turned out those programs weren’t actually available for everyone or were needlessly restrictive/difficult.
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Most of the things on your list you can’t get if you’re undocumented.
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Imagine swimming in a river in your own country and then you get caught up in a net and die while still in your country due to Texas illegally setting up their own border wall that isn’t even in Texas anymore. Texas should should hire this guy to go to the river and whenever kids drown trying to just enjoy themselves he is there but always wait 5 minutes to make sure the Mexicans drowned since he obviously hates them and then unties them, bring them up to shore, and then yell this in their face. I think he would gladly take the job all the while moving back and fourth illegally from the Mexico and Texas border just to yell at dead Mexicans
I can’t imagine what situation you grew up in to have so much hate in your heart. What you and a shit to of racists don’t understand is that if we had all the immigrants in America disappear, the labor force, and crops for example would shit the bed so fast. The immigrants all do the jobs you fuckers won’t do and you don’t actually care enough to learn on how much of the country they hold on their back. It’s always simple though, instead of actual being about “America” and filling the gaps you would just complain someone else needs to do these high labor intensive jobs
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First off you’re so dumb dude. How about instead of intentionally killing others in an absolutely beautiful river we just enjoy it? Ever thought that idk, maybe, some of them genuinely just wanted a swim?
The more important part is that since you are so ‘MERICA🦅⛪🙏’ then why are you okay with these deaths while they are completely illegal and dong follow the constitution? Referenced From this comment
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a43a23ea-5314-4b82-9493-d02761e77e99.jpeg
I mean i figure since youre okay with that ill just go ahead and completely ignore laws to do whatever the hell i want to do. When did the constitution just become another ‘woke’ book to you that should be ignored?
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You keep ignoring over half of my comments. Do you really think Texas of all places would put a buoy with a net but not create the net in such a way that it would tangle someone up? Are there any warnings about there being nets? How would you feel if Mexico set something that long up in the river but 80% of it was across the border?
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thus spake the voice of privilege.
Well how else are Americans supposed to leave their shit hole country for Mexico?
Ah, the old Lemmy switcheroo!
I agree that they’re criminals, shouldn’t be encouraged, and need to be deported, but death is a little much.
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Does the Texas government go around installing cliffs in places where they know people go dancing?
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Not an analogy, T-Boner, that was a false equivalence. Sorry you are unable to comprehend basic English.
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You make poor analogies
Wishing death on people is horrendous.
And so will you, one day, I’m sure
Yes? Hell, border towns put up barriers without state or federal permission.
Thats not the problem.