His hope, gone.

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    Do you think they just fell from the coconut tree and declared this an eternal law?

    No I think it’s a incorrect analysis to conclude that all labor unions are collaborating with capitalism based on one example, when labor unions have largely been a force which has fought against capitalism. I think you’re foolish for trying to defend them. They do partcipate in labor unions and they try to abolish the unions from within. The WSWS was promoting a Trotskyist guy who was trying to abolish the UAW.

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      They do partcipate in labor unions and they try to abolish the unions from within. The WSWS was promoting a Trotskyist guy who was trying to abolish the UAW.

      Oh, I see… they’re against Shawn Fain… that’s an L on their part

      Ok, maybe, I’m getting to see your point, that they are very harsh and condemning of labor unions

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        I don’t think you’re quite getting it. You’re trying to rationalize their language with your own framework but they don’t operate on your framework. I’m not being hyperbolic when I use the phrase “abolish”. That is the word that they used, not me. They are against Shawn Fain, yes, but they’re also against the concept of labor unions in general. The trotskyist guy who ran against Shawn Fain ran with “Abolish the UAW” as his core #1 campaign promise and was shocked when he lost. They want to abolish all labor unions, not just the UAW. The SEP are acting as obstructionists to labor organizing.