To clarify, the pictured poster Caroline Kwan is an ally, not a TERF. The TERFs referred to in the title are the ones ‘protecting a very specific idea of what a woman is’

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    5 months ago

    So, would you agree that if a born male is below the certain testosterone level that the person should compete in women’s category? No one seems to be railing on this but somehow everyone is up in arms when it comes to women’s sports.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      I do love how the people constantly white knighting women by claiming that women who are athletes should be protected from other women who are athletes, but with masculine traits, but when you flip the script and try to suggest that maybe that should apply across the board if that’s how we’re doing things and “feminine” men should play against women, suddenly it’s “no, not like that! Our precious property women must be protected!”

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        The person we replied to is literally doing what the posted screenshot is criticising lol. It’s not about fairness and equality, some folks are really misogynists and protecting their own idea of what a woman is.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Right. It’s a total white knight move. I do not know of any women athletes on the level of a woman like Ms. Khelif (or any other Olympian for that matter) who have asked to be protected from having to compete against a “man.”

    • eleitl@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      Not really. Not a sport physiologist, but the core advantage is due to male puberty. If you prevent male puberty with blockers and afterwards keep male testosteron in low range and/or use the same regimen as in M2F transition these individuals would be better matched in a female competition.

        • eleitl@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 months ago

          I have studied molecular biology and researched M2F transition issues privately. I have not claimed to be an expert is sport physiology. Your comeback has no substance.

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        Are you saying some of these born males intentionally use blockers during their puberty? Let’s say these born male individuals want to compete athletically in male sports but were outperformed; basically you’re saying it’s their fault for using blockers during their puberty?

        • eleitl@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          5 months ago

          There are now some M2F transitioners who take puberty blockers during adolescence. Some of them might become athletes.