Google ramps up its campaign against ad blockers on Chrome.

Google ramps up its campaign against ad blockers on Chrome.

  • kandoh@reddthat.com
    16·
    3 months ago

    I remember how excited I was when google released a browser. They’ve become such a joke since then.

      • mke@lemmy.world
        7·
        3 months ago

        They might simply prefer it, or be in an environment where they have no choice (e.g. office, education).

        I’m a stubborn Firefox user but I have to say, this feels a little aggressive and not at all likely to convince anyone to switch.

        • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          So you’re saying they’d be allowed to sideload a discontinued chrome extension onto their work laptop but not allowed to download another legitimate browser? Yea…not buying it. Same with an educational setting. Pretty sure the person I reaponded to just simply is used to Chrome and doesn’t want change (which I do understand.)

      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
        1·
        3 months ago

        I stripped it from all google crap, extra features, etc. Then the features I want I added in using an extension I wrote and maintain myself

    • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
      5·
      3 months ago

      Noice. I’m sure there’s mirrors up already. Article says it’ll eventually stop working tho. I know I have a few extensions that eventually were disabled daily and I had to enable them each time I started chrome

      This might be what makes he leave for Firefox full time. A bummer indeed

      Edit: ha, just saw what sub/community this is. I use FF but only for browsing… privately ;]

      • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org
        7·
        3 months ago

        Why not just use Firefox all the time? Literally zero reason to use Chrome except for the rare website that doesn’t work with Firefox?

        • Fitik@fedia.ioOP
          3·
          3 months ago

          I can understand them, I use Firefox on my PC, but Chrome on my phone, as I can’t live without tab groups there, for me it’s almost unusable without it, as I always have 100+ tabs open on my mobile browser

          When they’ll add it, I’ll use Firefox on both

            • Fitik@fedia.ioOP
              1·
              3 months ago

              @Shihali@sh.itjust.works It’s not on Android sadly

              @Boomkop3@reddthat.com @Psychodelic@lemmy.world @FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org

              • mke@lemmy.world
                1·
                3 months ago

                You can probably force it to be by using a custom extension list, but the result might not be functional or pretty to look at.

            • mke@lemmy.world
              5·
              3 months ago

              Using bookmarks as a substitute for tab groups is a very different user experience, though.

                • mke@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  3 months ago

                  I don’t think so. As far as context switching goes, tab groups are faster and, having used both Chrome’s tab groups and Firefox’s bookmarks, I’d argue they’re easier to manage too.

                  The way I see it, each feature has different intended uses. Ideally, I wouldn’t use tab groups as a bookmarks substitute either… but sometimes it happens due to their advantages.

                • Fitik@fedia.ioOP
                  1·
                  3 months ago

                  @FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org Not really, I use bookmarks too, but I need tab groups for organizing active tabs, not closed ones

                  @Boomkop3@reddthat.com @Psychodelic@lemmy.world @mke@lemmy.world

        • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
          1·
          3 months ago

          I mean, they are different so it is totally possible for someone to like one over the other, and that’s aside from the very simple reason of being used to it and/or not wanting to copy everything over like, passwords, payment methods, bookmarks, extensions (most important reason for me), etc.

          I honestly just keep think I’ll eventually switch permanently when Google forces me to. It’s the same reason I’m here; reddit forced my hand. I’m equally waiting for Microsoft to force me to switch to Linux.

          Also, typing that out, I do realize this isn’t a great mentality to have (I’m being forced to do x) but maybe that’s just the result of building my castle in foreign kingdoms. It’s basically damage control out here! lol

          • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
            2·
            3 months ago

            If you aren’t motivated at this point to switch to Firefox (or at least away from Chrome) then you never will be. I just don’t understand man. I really don’t.

            • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
              1·
              3 months ago

              I mean, would there really be a difference in the data they’re collecting on me, assuming that’s your main concern?

              I use an android phone which includes: android pay, youtube music/premium, maps and whatnot. Trying to keep my most sensitive data out of their hands honestly seems impossible at this point. I guess I just don’t really see the benefit. That said, blocking ads would of course be significant enough of an issue for me to make a change. But, as of earlier in the week, everything still worked fine (I think)

              Really tho, I barely use my PC to browse the web for fun anymore - just the odd gaming sesh and the Plex server for mom. It’s kinda depressing to think about, tbh

              • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
                1·
                3 months ago

                I can only assume that firefox on andoid OS (set up properly) collects less data about your browsing history vs. Chrome on android OS. So I’d say you would at least be giving less browsing data to Google. But in this case I just cannot imagine browsing the web without a fully functional ublock origin. I get that it still works on Chrome, but it won’t soon.

                • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  3 months ago

                  Well for ads I use DNS66. It works pretty well and even blocks ads in most apps and games. It basically makes some free apps feel like the premium version

      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
        2·
        3 months ago

        Yea, I’ll have to switch eventually. But let’s hope the manifest v2 is not too difficult to put back in

  • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
    4·
    3 months ago

    I’ll just say it.

    People that continue to use chrome, and all of its little forks like Brave and Edge, are the reason why corpos are winning and making the internet worse off in the long run.

    I’ve been using Firefox since I was a kid 20 FUCKING YEARS AGO. Not ONCE have I went to another browser for anything, and I look shit up constantly, pay my bills through Firefox, and everything between the two.

    Stop making excuses, and just use ANYTHING other than fucking CHROME. I don’t care if it’s safari, ladybird, or fucking internet explorer. Just stop using a browser that is built by an ad company masquerading as a fucking tech company.

    Jesus.

  • orcrist@lemm.ee
    3·
    3 months ago

    I like it when the garbage identifies itself openly. We don’t need Chrome, but Chrome needs us.

  • Technofrood@feddit.uk
    3·
    3 months ago

    The transition to the Manifest V3 framework means extensions like uBlock Origin can’t use remotely hosted code. According to Google, it “presents security risks by allowing unreviewed code to be executed in extensions.” The new policy changes will only allow an extension to execute JavaScript as part of its package.

    Is this a badly worded paragraph, but is uBlock Origin really using remotely hosted code? I thought it was a different restriction in manifest V3 that stops as blockers being effective.

    • unrushed233@lemmings.world
      12·
      3 months ago

      Is this a badly worded paragraph, but is uBlock Origin really using remotely hosted code? I thought it was a different restriction in manifest V3 that stops as blockers being effective.

      I think it kinda is badly worded, and it refers to code/data that is dynamically loaded by an extension, after it’s installed by the user, which uBlock Origin does use for filter lists. They can’t be bundled with the extension, because they get out of date really quickly and often need to get updated, so uBlock Origin just downloads a new blocklist and saves it in its cache. MV3 wants to prohibit this, making adblockers almost useless. Updating the extension every time there is an update to one of uBlock’s many blocklists just isn’t feasible. I think they can also hold back updates to the extension in the Chrome Web Store, which they might to if a blocklist starts to include something Google doesn’t like (e.g. YouTube ads). All of this is just a shitshow and people should switch to better browsers with actual API compatibility for purposes like adblocking. The best examples are Firefox and LibreWolf.

    • BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml
      4·
      3 months ago

      I think Google might just be calling block lists “externally hosted code”. As I understand it, there are several restrictions: the severe limitation on the number of rules, the requirement to bundle rules with the addon (and the associated delay due to extension store review), and the loss of many advanced rule types that change blocking behavior based on different factors in order to avoid detection and otherwise be effective.

      The ublock FAQ has some interesting details too: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)#filtering-capabilities-which-cant-be-ported-to-mv3