STDs, protection against being raped, kidnapped/trafficked, or murdered, the travel time and cleanup between clients unless you’re in-house, and in that case the cost of maintaining a safe and comfortable space, and finally the side effort you have to work on to maintain a body / appearance that people actually want to fuck. I’m all for sex work being legal, but it should be regulated specifically to protect workers.
The same way OSHA prevents workers from being expendable labor because of unsafe workplaces. I don’t want decriminalization. I want legalization. And I know OSHA doesn’t exactly fit the bill, but regulating sex work already exists in Nevada, and it’s much better for said workers.
Well, we could just make a law requiring that sex workers own their own means of production and anyone who owns a sex worker’s means of production is a human trafficker. But then the other workers in other industries might catch on that they are also being trafficked. Please note that this is what decriminalization does, as it is still illegal to be a pimp - so legalization actually allows for greater exploitation of sex workers by capitalists and banks.
How often a worker should be tested is between her and a doctor and perhaps a public health official. It should not be regulated by lawmakers who don’t understand medicine anyway. There are already laws in place about communicating STI status between adults.
I disagree that it should be purely between a sex worker and their doctor. I won’t get into the ownership of workers means of production, as I feel that’s a meta conversation that could be applied to any worker, and in any workers case, I would still want something like OSHA to exist.
I appreciate your perspective, and I’m sure you have far more insight than I do, but as a metaphor, in the sense that if I hire a contractor to build a house, and they and another private party decide the quality and situation of the construction, with no externally required guidelines to be followed except that the contractor can continue building houses, that wouldn’t make me feel safe about my specific house.
In any case, all the best and thanks for the thoughtful response
The places where sex work is considered real work and protected by law are a very tiny minority. Most of the world criminalizes sex work which adds police and state harassment to my list.
great! then you should be all for legalised and regulated sex work… because that’s the way it is here in melbourne, australia and its excellent and good for everyone… in the real world
Yes, I’m pro legally protected consensual sex work, thanks for asking. That’s why I know in Melbourne is legal but not the rest of Australia. Like in 99% of the world where it is criminalized. I’m an advocate and actually worked with victims of sex trafficking for a long time. That’s why I draw the distinction between what we wish it would be, and what happens in reality.
So it’s more of a side hustle.
Let’s just if it’s one guy a day. And that already puts you above minimum wage.
Make this a full-time job, get eight guys in a day. $292,000 a year. And you still weren’t even be working all day!
At those numbers that’s not a side gig, that’s just a full career with early retirement depending on lifestyle.
I’d let dudes bang me for $100 a day, and I’m not even gay. Realistically, how long we talking per session? 5 minutes if they’re lucky?
Why not just let 7 dudes a day do it for 100 a pop. $700 for 35 minutes of “work” with 6 days to let my bum hole recover.
Maybe double down a few times before holidays for some extra spending money.
Well… ya know… std’s and what not…
If it’s a numbers game, how many loads can you take before being exposed to something with life-long consequences, statistically speaking?
STDs, protection against being raped, kidnapped/trafficked, or murdered, the travel time and cleanup between clients unless you’re in-house, and in that case the cost of maintaining a safe and comfortable space, and finally the side effort you have to work on to maintain a body / appearance that people actually want to fuck. I’m all for sex work being legal, but it should be regulated specifically to protect workers.
How would regulation fix those things? Versus decriminalization?
The same way OSHA prevents workers from being expendable labor because of unsafe workplaces. I don’t want decriminalization. I want legalization. And I know OSHA doesn’t exactly fit the bill, but regulating sex work already exists in Nevada, and it’s much better for said workers.
Well, we could just make a law requiring that sex workers own their own means of production and anyone who owns a sex worker’s means of production is a human trafficker. But then the other workers in other industries might catch on that they are also being trafficked. Please note that this is what decriminalization does, as it is still illegal to be a pimp - so legalization actually allows for greater exploitation of sex workers by capitalists and banks.
How often a worker should be tested is between her and a doctor and perhaps a public health official. It should not be regulated by lawmakers who don’t understand medicine anyway. There are already laws in place about communicating STI status between adults.
I disagree that it should be purely between a sex worker and their doctor. I won’t get into the ownership of workers means of production, as I feel that’s a meta conversation that could be applied to any worker, and in any workers case, I would still want something like OSHA to exist.
I appreciate your perspective, and I’m sure you have far more insight than I do, but as a metaphor, in the sense that if I hire a contractor to build a house, and they and another private party decide the quality and situation of the construction, with no externally required guidelines to be followed except that the contractor can continue building houses, that wouldn’t make me feel safe about my specific house.
In any case, all the best and thanks for the thoughtful response
Then do it. There’s nothing stopping you. Go do it. $100 is very cheap so you’ll find customers.
Except for, you know, the whole pimps extorting you and generalized abuse and ill treatment of sex workers. Forced labor, human trafficking risk, etc.
i’m not saying those things aren’t a problem, but they don’t really move the needle in places where sex work is considered real work
The places where sex work is considered real work and protected by law are a very tiny minority. Most of the world criminalizes sex work which adds police and state harassment to my list.
not a problem with the concept; that’s a problem with local law
I have a tendency of caring more for the real world and real people than about concepts. My bad.
great! then you should be all for legalised and regulated sex work… because that’s the way it is here in melbourne, australia and its excellent and good for everyone… in the real world
Yes, I’m pro legally protected consensual sex work, thanks for asking. That’s why I know in Melbourne is legal but not the rest of Australia. Like in 99% of the world where it is criminalized. I’m an advocate and actually worked with victims of sex trafficking for a long time. That’s why I draw the distinction between what we wish it would be, and what happens in reality.
Friends without benefits
Other way around, benefits without friends.
Two adults consenting to exchange an agreed upon service for financial gain.
Money is a benefit.