can’t wait for boomer vibe comments under video clips of that turd saying “omerged dis is litraly what society is like 2day, this is bcause of woke and gay”
We’re gonna get Joker x Harley “I want what they have” memes again. It’s gonna happen again, people are going to romanticize abuse. I hate it. I hope Margot Robbie says something mean to Stephanie at an awards party.
This is the bad timeline because it’s fucking 2024 and we’re getting an edgelord jonkler Joker and Harley movie instead of a spiritual sequel to Thelma and Louise with Margot Robbie’s Harley and idk I can’t do a fan cast right now as Harley Quinn and they’re on a road trip to… idk… blow up Texas.
Poison Ivy
I would love to see the chuds go mad at Harlivy’s relationship being brought to a live action movie.
The cartoon is great, but a live action movie would be way higher profile.
I’m surprised this hasn’t happened yet, it would practically print money. You don’t even need to make a trailer, just say “Margot Robbie kisses a woman in this movie” and it will make $200 million opening weekend, guaranteed.
people are going to romanticize abuse
I’m curious about the degree to which their relationship will be portrayed as an abusive one in this movie. I don’t think it will be one where Joker is controlling Harley like in the animated series, it’ll be more about Harley becoming unhealthily obsessed with Joker. He’s a mentally ill prisoner and she’s a therapist at the prison who’s supposed to help him, so pursuing a relationship is obviously a major ethical violation on her part. So maybe she will be the more controlling manipulative one in the relationship, or perhaps it will be mutually abusive - but definitely not healthy regardless.
I was really hoping it was gonna be a total stylistic 180 from the first one and be a lavish jukebox musical that would then be adapted to Broadway
I feel like the fact that it’s a jukebox musical costarring Lady Gaga only bolsters your case.
rejecting diegetic essentialism gave me the gift of eternal media literacy
Wait, they’re making a sequel?
I really liked the movie as a standalone cautionary tale: stories that American media is infamously lacking. It would be ruined if we have to see a bunch of capeshit shoehorned in the sequel…(I’m saying that as I’m praising a movie about a literal DC comics character, but I digress.)
a bunch of capeshit shoehorned in the sequel
this isn’t really the case, the new movie is a musical about Arthur Fleck’s criminal trial
Oh, that’s a relief.
I liked it because I could almost entirely ignore any superhero bullshit in it. It was a great and tragic movie about a vicious system abusing someone who just needed proper medical help and social support, that happened to be ever so lightly shoehorned into some batman thing that wasn’t really relevant to the central story. It felt like someone wanted to tell that kind of story, but couldn’t get it picked up, and so pitched it to the superhero shit execs who are so desperate for some way to tell some sort of innovative and powerful story with their characters loosely slapped on that they’d snap up anything that comes there way.
And then I was really confused why so many progressives and liberals said it was a bad film that glamorizes alt-right men’s violence and inceldom. I guess if you really squint you can read it that way but that’s not what I took from it.
They’re making a sequel? No way it does the first one justice, and if they lean into anything to do with superheros or supervillains any more than they did in the first one they’ll ruin it entirely. Probably not going to bother watching it.
Whatever it is, I’m positive it’s going to be nonsensical slop, because there’s no The King of Comedy 2 to remake.
since it’s a musical maybe Todd Phillips will rip off New York, New York instead
Joker 2019 perfectly captured the cultural moment because it perfectly understood the vibe of the country, viz, that we all wanted to go crazy and kill ourselves and everyone around us, however precise or imprecise our understanding of why SOCIETY made us feel that way. The cultural moment of 2024 is so much different because the Biden era has seemingly foreclosed all possibility of that kind of antisocial rebellion. The national mood is not one of unfocused violent passions, but rather of being asleep at the wheel as we drift into inevitable crisis. When we fantasize of adventurism, we cannot bring ourselves to imagine a crowd of Sickos cheering us on, as at the end of the first Joker - instead there is only the crowd of mindless sheep, as at the end of Nashville. Capturing that vibe shift would be an incredibly difficult pivot for the coming second Joker film to make, even putting aside the creative exhaustion that almost invariably accompanies sequel films. So as much as I loved the first film, I will enter the second with low expectations.
that we all wanted to go crazy and kill ourselves and everyone around us
So the new Jonkler will be like Bioshock 2, trying to undo anything cool that was said in the original? I’ll believe it.
Yellow jackets sound like they suck as roommates, meanwhile me and the mud dauber wasp who’s apartment is on my balcony have an understanding
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TIL there’s a new joker movie coming out soon.
