Sebastian Contin Trillo-Figueroa and James F. Downes argue that the EU faces a dilemma: should it pursue continued enlargement, or contract its membership
The EU funded Orbán for decades without any real pushback, they were happy that he created a nearshoring centre for them inside the EU. The reason there has been no real opposition to Orbán in Hungary is because they would have had to go up against the unchecked uncounted EU money Orbán could spend on reelection. What remained of the opposition has been begging the EU for decades to give the money to the recipients directly, as in municipalities, to no avail.
Merkel did much more for Orbán than Fico or the Polish guy. The only reason the Germans are coming to their senses is because Hungary is no longer only selling out its people and its democracy to the German car industry, but to China and Russia as well.
I’m not blaming it on you or the eu, I’m just saying that saying or thinking things like „Kick them out of the EU. Good riddance!” would only result in an absolute dictatorship and the suffering of almost 10 million people in the long term. I hate the hungarian government too, but kicking them out from the eu would only affect the people, and the same assholes would be sitting in throne, but instead of having some people at least trying to make them lean in the right direction, they would happily abuse their powers without the fear of losing anything
I’m just saying that saying or thinking things like „Kick them out of the EU. Good riddance!” would only result in an absolute dictatorship and the suffering of almost 10 million people in the long term.
I hate the hungarian government too, but kicking them out from the eu would only affect the people, and the same assholes would be sitting in throne, but instead of having some people at least trying to make them lean in the right direction, they would happily abuse their powers without the fear of losing anything
I see your point. Thanks for elaborating.
Having said that I’d like to add that one of my annoyances about Orban lately is the change regarding
Russians and Belarussians. Which means these people can easily go further into Europe. Unrelated to this Germany picked up border control again (Besides their border control with Czech Republic which they already had). We’re living in a troubled world and in very difficult times. https://web.archive.org/web/20240809085816/https://verfassungsblog.de/could-hungary-be-suspended-from-schengen/
He actually had a really big change in attitude towards russians, back when the sovjetunion was a thing and there were russian military stationed in the country, he was one of the main people telling them to go back home. But it seems it’s a situation where they went from haters to lovers, or something like that
Very good that The European Consortium For Political Research blog has a post about this.
My take on it :
- Is Hungary still a democracy ? Maybe not.
- Is Hungary a long time pain in the *ass within EU ? Yes.
Conclusion : Kick them out of the EU. Good riddance!
Indeed if it doesn’t meet the requirements they set for a new joining state (democracy) it should be booted
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Are you blaming your economical misery completely on me and on the EU and not at all on Orban ?
The EU funded Orbán for decades without any real pushback, they were happy that he created a nearshoring centre for them inside the EU. The reason there has been no real opposition to Orbán in Hungary is because they would have had to go up against the unchecked uncounted EU money Orbán could spend on reelection. What remained of the opposition has been begging the EU for decades to give the money to the recipients directly, as in municipalities, to no avail.
Merkel did much more for Orbán than Fico or the Polish guy. The only reason the Germans are coming to their senses is because Hungary is no longer only selling out its people and its democracy to the German car industry, but to China and Russia as well.
I’m not blaming it on you or the eu, I’m just saying that saying or thinking things like „Kick them out of the EU. Good riddance!” would only result in an absolute dictatorship and the suffering of almost 10 million people in the long term. I hate the hungarian government too, but kicking them out from the eu would only affect the people, and the same assholes would be sitting in throne, but instead of having some people at least trying to make them lean in the right direction, they would happily abuse their powers without the fear of losing anything
I see your point. Thanks for elaborating.
Having said that I’d like to add that one of my annoyances about Orban lately is the change regarding
Russians and Belarussians. Which means these people can easily go further into Europe. Unrelated to this Germany picked up border control again (Besides their border control with Czech Republic which they already had). We’re living in a troubled world and in very difficult times.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240809085816/https://verfassungsblog.de/could-hungary-be-suspended-from-schengen/
He actually had a really big change in attitude towards russians, back when the sovjetunion was a thing and there were russian military stationed in the country, he was one of the main people telling them to go back home. But it seems it’s a situation where they went from haters to lovers, or something like that