• Ethan@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    it’s not inconceivable it could happen in the next two generations.

    I am certain that it will happen eventually. And I am not arguing that something has to be human-level intelligent to be considered intelligent. See dogs, pigs, dolphins, etc. But IMO there is a huge qualitative difference between how an LLM operates and how animal intelligence operates. I am certain we will eventually create intelligent systems but there is a massive gulf between what LLMs are capable of and abstract reasoning. And it seems extremely unlikely to me that linear algebraic models will ever achieve that type of intelligence.

    Intelligence is just responding to stimuli

    Bacteria respond to stimuli. Would you call them intelligent?

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      2 months ago

      Bacteria respond to stimuli. Would you call them intelligent?

      I’m not certain - probably not but I’m not certain where to draw the line. A cat is definitely intelligent, so is a cow - the fact that I don’t think bacteria is intelligent might be a question of scale or de deanthropomorphism… but intelligence probably only emerges in multicellular organisms.

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        2 months ago

        My point is that I strongly feel that the kind of “AI” we have today is much closer to bacteria than to cats on that scale. Not that an LLM belongs on the same scale as biological life, but the point stands in so far as “is this thing intelligent” as far as I’m concerned.

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      2 months ago

      linear algebraic models

      Most, if not all, good deep learning models will at least use non-linear activations, making the model technically non-linear.

      Also, “intelligence” is not a very well defined term, so deciding what is and isn’t intelligent is subjective.

      i.e. sunflowers don’t have brains, but the way they react to the sun is kinda intelligent imo. They perceive… and react.