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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, “Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND.”

  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Self-driving cars also have an added benefit, if they are exclusively on the road, in that they could eliminate traffic. But they won’t have exclusive access to the road, because people like driving cars. Interconnected compiters planning everyone’s trips could eliminate the need for stop signs, stop lights, or the slinky effect on highways, because it turns out comouters can be better drivers than the typical human driver. They just need to stop hitting pedestrians…

    • SlopppyEngineer
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      1 year ago

      in that they could eliminate traffic

      That’s the question. Let’s say the roads are now exclusively self driving cars and they are so efficient they double the throughput of roads. Meanwhile commuters bought houses that are twice as far away from the city because those houses are cheaper, and now they can sleep and work in the car anyway, so twice as much traffic. Or all schoolkids not taking the schoolbus anymore and all going by individual autonomous car and all pensioners getting their robo-taxi to squeeze through rush hour every morning so they’re first at the supermarket for the freshest produce. It remains to be seen how that works out.

    • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      That’s complete bullshit. The reason why there is congestion is because there are too many vehicles on the roadway. Changing the timing of the vehicles doesn’t eliminate the vehicles or the congestion. It’s a geometry problem.

        • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Uh excuse me wtf does that have to do anything.

          And no, I don’t think that. Just the complete polar opposite in fact.

          • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Because rather than fixing the problem, you think we can avoid it entirely with a completely unreasonable elimination of cars.

            Traffic exists because people are inefficient drivers. Congestion happens everywhere people live in sufficient densities, and it’s not the density you’re imagining.

            Fully automated driving is also unlikely to happen in our lifetimes, because people like driving. But it could happen eventually, because the variety of benefits over other forms of transportation. One of those benefits is reducing traffic.

            • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              What? I don’t think we can eliminate cars. Must have me confused with someone else.

              I totally agree with your points and I apology for the confusion or poor communication.