Yeah, but my point is most gamers, the vast majority, don’t know how games are made, they don’t know what the mechanics are, they don’t know why the mechanics are, or how they interact, or anything.

My personal experience is D&D players who try to make the most broken optimized characters and never think about how that fits in to the campaign, the party, what work the dm has to do to balance the game around their broken character. They just see mathematically optimal character == best character because they either don’t know or don’t care how the game actually functions.