• JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    I have never once heard and have not been able to imagine an explanation of how not having borders could possibly work.

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      28 minutes ago

      All immigration is a net positive to the economy in a number of different ways, and most of “problems” are caused by material conditions created by having classes of citizens versus non citizens. The US basically had open borders for much of its history and that’s a big reason why it became such an industrial powerhouse.

      The original idea behind physical border control has more to do with espionage and sabotage than restricting immigration.

      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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        16 minutes ago

        They have a lot of borders.

        They’re similar to the US under the Articles of Confederation. Separate states with free passage among them. Going from France to Germany is effectively the same as going from Georgia to Tennessee.

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        EU has borders though, it just functions like the United States does (in a republican wet dream) in that it’s a conglomerate of a bunch of “states”. ask the UK fucks that get kicked out of Spain now. No borders inside the territory but there’s absolutely borders on the outside.

    • qevlarr@lemmy.world
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      40 minutes ago

      What do you mean “how it works”? What function would ‘having no borders’ serve?

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      2 hours ago

      Simple. In the past there is no “border”. You are someone from Frankfurt who came to Paris to set up business and there was no question asked.

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      2 hours ago

      A example that’s not borderlessness, but still interesting, was the Behind the Bastards episode on Harlan Crow which talked about how there was seasonal migration of people from Mexico into the US during peak agricultural seasons. They would return to Mexico in the winter, but the introduction of a hard border incentivized people to remain in the US.

      It seems the hardening the border lead to the exact thing Harlan Crow and the other racist trash were trying to fight, increased immigration.