no need to write an essay or anything

some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don’t know what’s serious and what’s irony

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    For that: see the other comments in this thread. Bunch of people basking in the privilege of their rights not being directly threatened. Give me a fucking break.

    Ain’t a leftist to be seen.

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      excuse me, what? I’m not white and I’m transgender. my ability to exist in public is under direct and immediate threat. this is a deeply offensive comment not to mention the excusal of the imperialist policy of quite literally every American president and their impact on people elsewhere around the globe or the direct explanations you’ve received about how little has changed in the transition from trump to biden. miss me with this “I’m the only real leftist” bullshit, liberal.

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      The Democrats refused to fight to protect Roe V Wade. That would have been popular even with conservatives. There could have been no real downside. What makes you think they will do anything to protect you when the time comes? You are one of the people best positioned to see how much of it is just a show.

        • Good thing Biden is fighting so hard for trans rights! Plus he codified Roe so people have control over their bodies, and freed the children in cages and the prisoners in Guantanamo bay and compensated them for being tortured for 20 years, and he gave the people of Afghanistan their money back preventing mass disease and famine

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          what has biden done to stop states from legislating away our ability to exist in public spaces? rights aren’t real. either we take power and force the state to recognize our humanity or we’ll get wiped off the face of the earth. the sooner you libs realize that and the fact that the dems aren’t allies, the sooner we can get that done.

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          Trans rights - they’re right to even just exist is under threat. The comrades on hexbear take that seriously, it’s an extremely trans friendly space.

          If you want to make a harm reduction arguement for strategic voting for dems in key swing areas, i get it, I’d even agree more than likely. But to pretend like the dems are actively allies, are actively defending trans rights, or for that matter actively doing anything materially different than republican admins is another thing.

          You say you dont trust us because we don’t view Trump as uniquely different from other admins. We don’t but why should we? What us the unique difference?

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            My right to exist. I’m a trans woman who is very aware that I may need to flee the country in the next few years depending on where things go. I’m extremely aware of the attacks on my life and my access to the medication I need. This shit is not abstract for me.

            There’s a very big difference between having lipservice support from the federal government while living in a state that’s literally one of the best places on Earth to transition, and hoping said state will protect me from a federal government that’s actively hostile.

            Are federal Democrats actively allies to trans people? Eh.

            Are Massachusetts Democrats? You bet your ass they are. We’ve got more rights than trans people in most of the EU. We have informed consent, mandatory insurance coverage for trans health care, actual legal protection from discrimination.

            You act like there’s no difference, but I’m literally better protected here than I would be anywhere outside of like maybe like the Netherlands.

            I’m not in this to act like a high school child, I’m in it because people want to fucking wipe me and everyone like me out.

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              funny how you do nothing to respond to the other trans person in the thread. As another trans woman, it saddens me to see you use your voice to spout liberal nonsense. Get a grip and look around, all of them are the same, falling toward a reactionary shithole.

              Are Massachusetts Democrats? You bet your ass they are. We’ve got more rights than trans people in most of the EU. We have informed consent, mandatory insurance coverage for trans health care, actual legal protection from discrimination.

              HOW LONG WILL THEY PROTECT YOU

              If you have to vote for your own right to exist, and they still are under threat, the system is designed to hurt you.

              Some are better, but they will all go the same way eventually, and do you really think the democrat party will go out of their way to take true meaningful action against the injustices against us?

              America is not your hero, if it is, then you are no comrade of mine, trans or not. You have chosen your white privilege over the existence of those in the third world because you play into the game. How many trans kids are murdered due to the imperialism in the 3rd world that America, under democrats and republicans alike, perpetuates. Even if you’re doing so well in your little land of Massachusetts, what about the ones in Iraq and Afghanistan? Just fuck them? They should die? Just become some are good that is a fucking exception (a lousy one at that, if you ask me), not the rule. If your attitude is “fuck you got mine” then how can you claim to be left at all?

              Our rights are being stripped away biden or not, trump or not, its happening. America is collapsing into fascism. You’re smarter than this, don’t play this stupid game when we both know how it ends.

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              This post is about whether trump is a worse federal executive than any other federal executive in the last ~40 years. Massachusetts Dems being good on trans rights has nothing to do with that.

              If there is some connection then please explain it

            • Hey, I want to apologize. Having read more by you, I can understand your fears more clearly. I sincerely hope you can find a way to leave the US, because the trends for trans people are truly terrifying. I know I probably came across very flippant, and I just want a chance to explain myself a bit.

              The Biden regime is currently in possession of funds that rightfully belong to the people of Afghanistan. By stealing this money, america is dooming hundreds of thousands of children to death by starvation and illness. My heart breaks for you and other people trapped inside the US regime, but you are not fundamentally more worthy of sympathy than the kids in Afghanistan. I desire a world in which both you and those children can live the life you deserve, and the only way I can see that happening is if the American state is destroyed

              • Also, because I don’t want to derail this too much,I am choosing a single topic because it shows the lack of a difference between trump and any given democrat. The people of Afghanistan would face the same cruelty no matter who is in charge. The same point could be made over and over again, whether we are talking people in Yemen, or Palestine, or Cuba. America is evil, and only causes harm in the world

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          I’m sorry that I didn’t make assumptions about your identity before you offered them. If you could clarify you position instead of giving snarky one sentence responses that might help.

          for example: what are the dems doing for trans rights? can you give any specifics?

    • Believe it or not, there are other countries in the world besides America. Most of us are internationalists, in that are goal is the liberation of all people. By that view, there is very little difference between trump and Biden. Both are warmongering ghouls who preside(d) over an empire that brings untold suffering to millions of people

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      You know who’s really been threatened? All those people Biden deported using Title 42, a Trump era policy, Biden even doubled Trump’s deportation numbers in less than half the time and even now, miss me with that fake ass “lesser evil” nonsense, you libs are just as regressive and disgusting as the Trumpers

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      Wow a liberal calling a bunch of minorities and transgender people privellaged because their telling the liberal their lives didn’t get better under a democratic president.

      Better actively try to silence the voice of the actually oppressed and continue to insist anybody who doesn’t enthusiastically support the president who has done such outreach as “give ma a break, I’m serious I have no sympathy” is just privellaged or a liar.

      You realize you’re literally ACTUALLY doing all the things you just said we have to vote for Biden to stop right.

      Kinda seems like you’re proving the point that the only real difference is when a dems president libs start telling people not to complain because it makes them look bad.

      Like how Dejoy being head of usps was a huge scandal the entire time Trump was in office, whatever happened to that guy after Biden threw him out on his ass day one?