Ugh these people suck so bad. On average, western leftists are worse than useless. Some bullet points are kinda interesting, even if annoying.

  • Owl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 hours ago

    Lumping traits of bad orgs like sheltering abusers with traits of orgs you disagree with like “defending authoritarian governments” into one definition is actually gross.


    Also these two traits are actually common among ML orgs in my experience and I wish they’d cut it out:

    Redirecting Autonomous Efforts into Spaces They Control

    This is a symptom of play-acting at being the One Important Group that will lead to the revolution. It reduces the total pool of active organizational talent by destroying something that’s probably already working, and removing a place where a group can learn to organize. It destroys the resiliency possible from a web of organization. Exchange contact info and get on each other’s mailing lists instead.

    Hyper-Focus on Bureaucracy

    I don’t know if this is more play-acting or just people’s minds being poisoned by capitalist bureaucracies. It wastes time and makes actual organization harder. Establish communication channels and interpersonal relationships instead.

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      Hard agree on the first one.

      The second is a matter of degrees I think. Bureaucracy gets a bad rep, but it can be essential to ensure that especially action focused org don’t descend into just a discussion group, and also it offers some protection against cops and wreckers deliberately trying to derail orgs. If you’ve got the kind of bureaucracy where you’re having meetings about voting on a meeting chair for the next meeting or whatever, then you’ve already failed on those points anyway.