• Psythik@lemm.ee
    13·
    1 year ago

    Uh what? I have no idea what any of that means.

    I just don’t like Hexbear cause they claim to be communists yet constantly talk shit about liberals. Only MAGAts and Hexbear users hate liberals.

    I miss /r/LateStageCapitalism, a community made of actual communist liberals, unlike Hexbear which is just full of rage baiting trolls. But I’ll never go back to reddit again.

    • Bnova [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      “Communist liberal” is incoherent nonsense. Liberalism is a capitalist ideology that promotes private ownership of the means of production, communism subsequently doesn’t, they are contradictory ideologies.

      • Psythik@lemm.ee
        13·
        1 year ago

        Things are not so black and white. It’s possible to like ideas from both sides, without having to fully subscribe to a single idealogy.

        • Bnova [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          41·
          1 year ago

          There is no third way in this context, either you want workers to own the means of production or you want Capitalists to. Liberals want Capitalists to, and some liberals want Capitalists to own less, but see no overall problem with the current relationship between workers and their exploited labor. Communists want workers to own the means of production by contrast, these are opposing ideologies.

      • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
        14·
        1 year ago

        Liberalism is a capitalist ideology that promotes private ownership of the means of production

        Absolutely false. It espouses private ownership. This can mean your own clothes, your own phone, your own computer, your own house, your own sentimental belongings, instead of everything being communally shared.

        It is possible for the means of production, like factories, to be communally owned, while still allowing for small personal private ownership. You can strike a balance between liberalism and private ownership, and communism and communal ownership.

        It’s not a black and white binary choices between “everything is private” and “everything is communal”.