“Some of you may be willing to die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” but unironically

Edit: The user has since apologised https://hexbear.net/comment/3848285

  • nxdefiant@startrek.websiteEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    How did the US. get Putin to invade Ukraine? I’m trying to follow the logic but I keep getting stuck on that one.

    • nxdefiant@startrek.websiteEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Weird, I got this as a reply but then it was just gone:

      So the implication is that the Russian invasion was (and continues to be?) a false flag?

      Yeah, I’m still not seeing how the US got Putin to go along with this false flag, any more details?

      • RollaD20 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        1 year ago

        They were engaging in a dang whataboutism bawllin-sad

        Its a cheeky joke that is wondering why the United States has the moral authority to hypocritically police another state for actions that the USA engages in regularly and yet does not receive a fraction of the pushback.

        It’s also worth pointing out, however, that the USA has been stoking the flames of Russian-Ukraine conflict for decades beginning with Operation Aerodynamics.

        • nxdefiant@startrek.websiteEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I would guess that US’s ability to project both hard and soft power grants them the opportunity to do so. I can’t speak to moral authority since you’d have to get everyone to agree on a moral authority to even have that discussion. I’m literally just trying to figure out what everyone thinks is actually happening, but everyone here seems content to stop at entertaining themselves with their own words.

          It seems to me that Putin thought he had this same ability to influence the world around him, but misjudged his and his country’s ability to do either of those things, and is now reaping the rewards of that misjudgement. Sovereignty seems to be a sword of many edges for him.

          • RollaD20 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            1 year ago

            Yeah that’s fair, these threads aren’t great for getting a sense of what people’s ideas are here. Especially since folks end up fairly antagonistic and the comments pile up. If you are curious, Here is a pretty good comment on the war, and I do recommend using the search function and just perusing the longer (especially sourced, read the sources!) and more effortful comments.