Lmao do you think we’re democrats or something? We can critique political leaders whose ideology aligns with our own, that critique is just more substantial than saying “joe steel bad 100 gazillion” because, again, we’re not american liberals.
I wish Stalin had been better on queer rights. Reinstating sodomy laws was shitty. I think he fucked up when he assumed fair play from the US and stopped supporting socialist movements internationally. I think it’s sus as fuck that he kept urging Mao to work with the fascists, especially when later developments in Asia follow a pattern of the USSR being much too hands off. I get being harrowed by decades of war and capitalist siege, but that same experience should make him realise they couldn’t get to the “rebuilding” phase until they were actually safe.
Lysenkoism was cringe as hell.
While the gulags were far better than the prison systems in the west, had a much lower recidivism rate, a higher rate of survivability, a better standard of living an so on, they were still incredibly horrendous. “Better than the west” is a bar that is so low it might as well be in hell.
I won’t get banned for this because critiquing anyone is completely fine, as long as the critique is actually sound and you don’t act like a jackass. Something that cannot be said for people like you. Saying “100 million stalin gulag” isn’t “critique” it’s propaganda and saying it like you do is also just annoying. From the way you interact with others it’s clear you’re dishonest and you look down on people who disagree with you.
edit: other bureaucrats are free to add more if they fear their own accounts getting hit with the mods comically large ban spoon for daring to critique our great leader
The point about Mao really got me. The nationalists betrayed and slaughtered the communists on multiple occasions because Chiang Kai-Shek was pissy that the workers liked them more. And every time someone asked the USSR for advice, they were like “just work it out, trust me” like ???
I think that significantly contributed to modern China’s views on foreign interference and language about others meddling in their domestic affair. And the hundred years of colonial pillaging, of course.
Yeah the more I learn about the sino-soviet split the more annoyed I get. It kinda reeks of colonizer brainworms. Then the chinese got those brainworms wrt Cambodia and Afghanistan. I know it’s more complicated than that and I’m being reductive as hell and it’s just now something I’m only kind of learning about so I know my views can change again, but as I see it now, it gives me the vibes of “we need them to live in suffering for a few decades more until we’re ready” (I heard blowback pod quote Molotov about “needing 5-65 years” and I’ve been looking for the quote ever since). I get that mentality, but it’s kind of just reformism with more steps.
I do kinda get it though, it’s easy to say I would’ve done otherwise after several million dead and the first opportunity for peace in several decades.
Yeah. I went back and listened to the afghanistan season right after and realising the chinese had worked with the US against the soviets there too was a real blow to the heart
Lmao do you think we’re democrats or something? We can critique political leaders whose ideology aligns with our own, that critique is just more substantial than saying “joe steel bad 100 gazillion” because, again, we’re not american liberals.
I wish Stalin had been better on queer rights. Reinstating sodomy laws was shitty. I think he fucked up when he assumed fair play from the US and stopped supporting socialist movements internationally. I think it’s sus as fuck that he kept urging Mao to work with the fascists, especially when later developments in Asia follow a pattern of the USSR being much too hands off. I get being harrowed by decades of war and capitalist siege, but that same experience should make him realise they couldn’t get to the “rebuilding” phase until they were actually safe.
Lysenkoism was cringe as hell.
While the gulags were far better than the prison systems in the west, had a much lower recidivism rate, a higher rate of survivability, a better standard of living an so on, they were still incredibly horrendous. “Better than the west” is a bar that is so low it might as well be in hell.
I won’t get banned for this because critiquing anyone is completely fine, as long as the critique is actually sound and you don’t act like a jackass. Something that cannot be said for people like you. Saying “100 million stalin gulag” isn’t “critique” it’s propaganda and saying it like you do is also just annoying. From the way you interact with others it’s clear you’re dishonest and you look down on people who disagree with you.
edit: other bureaucrats are free to add more if they fear their own accounts getting hit with the mods comically large ban spoon for daring to critique our great leader
The point about Mao really got me. The nationalists betrayed and slaughtered the communists on multiple occasions because Chiang Kai-Shek was pissy that the workers liked them more. And every time someone asked the USSR for advice, they were like “just work it out, trust me” like ???
I think that significantly contributed to modern China’s views on foreign interference and language about others meddling in their domestic affair. And the hundred years of colonial pillaging, of course.
Yeah the more I learn about the sino-soviet split the more annoyed I get. It kinda reeks of colonizer brainworms. Then the chinese got those brainworms wrt Cambodia and Afghanistan. I know it’s more complicated than that and I’m being reductive as hell and it’s just now something I’m only kind of learning about so I know my views can change again, but as I see it now, it gives me the vibes of “we need them to live in suffering for a few decades more until we’re ready” (I heard blowback pod quote Molotov about “needing 5-65 years” and I’ve been looking for the quote ever since). I get that mentality, but it’s kind of just reformism with more steps.
I do kinda get it though, it’s easy to say I would’ve done otherwise after several million dead and the first opportunity for peace in several decades.
Blowback was kinda heartbreaking this year because the Chinese brain worms w/r/t Vietnam and the Soviets really caused harm in that region.
Yeah. I went back and listened to the afghanistan season right after and realising the chinese had worked with the US against the soviets there too was a real blow to the heart