I feel like there is no web browser with a sane default configuration that I can recommend to other people. All browsers are preconfigured in a way that harms the privacy of their users or include services that no one wants such as Pocket and BAT.

Here are my problems with some popular browsers.

  • Mozilla Firefox: Pocket integration, no ad-blocking without extensions.

  • Brave: Everything related to crypto. Also its start page is horrible.

  • Chromium: No ad-blocking without extensions and soon Manifest v3 will cripple all content blockers.

Now, these suboptimal defaults wouldn’t be such a big problem if the configuration files were easy to backup and restore and respected the XDG base directory specification.

  • marlowe221@lemmy.worldEnglish
    167·
    vor 1 Jahr

    It’s kinda the same with Brave. Just take 2 seconds to turn off the crypto thing and forget it was ever there.

    I’m primarily a Firefox user but keep Brave around for Chromium-based browser testing.

    Just turn it off, folks!

      • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
        185·
        vor 1 Jahr

        Yeah, and there’s definitely some pay-offs going on with their reviews. Almost every one of them says something close to “This browser pays you just for browsing the internet!,” most of them don’t mention that it’s crypto, and none of them mention that it has nothing to do with browsing, but is instead for clicking integrated ads.

        • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
          23·
          vor 1 Jahr

          it has nothing to do with browsing, but is instead for clicking integrated ads.

          It doesn’t show you ads if you’re not browsing… 🤔

          And you don’t have to click the ads.

          • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
            22·
            vor 1 Jahr

            Brainlet response.

            Getting popup ads is a far cry from “just browsing,” and despite claims otherwise, I always noticed a fairly stark difference from month to month that seemed to coincide with whether or not I was clicking the ads. 🤔

            My favorite part of all these mad shilling comments in getting as how not a single one of them addresses the carbon copy “BRowSeR tHAT PaYS YoU!!!” reviews, they just all go “Hmm, but it says you don’t have to click, haha, you fool, you liar! You are discredited!”

            • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
              31·
              vor 1 Jahr

              Brainlet response.

              Dafuq is a “brainlet”?

              Getting popup ads is a far cry from “just browsing,”

              I don’t know what part of this you’re not getting but you have to be browsing in order to get an ad, so it has absolutely everything to do with browsing, despite your insistence to the contrary.

              that seemed to coincide with whether or not I was clicking the ads.

              Wait you actually clicked the ads?

              mad shilling comments

              God I just love these comments. As if no one can actually genuinely like a product and any correction of disinformation makes you a “shill”… such big brain energy over here.

              how not a single one of them addresses the carbon copy “BRowSeR tHAT PaYS YoU!!!” reviews.

              Because we don’t care. We don’t read reviews from randoms online. We listen to experienced privacy and security advocates, and we actually use the browsers ourselves.

              • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
                22·
                vor 1 Jahr

                You’re not a shill for “genuinely liking a product” or “correcting disinformation” (which, btw, are both obvious b.s.), you’re a shill for denying any lying about genuine issues.

                You’re a shill for your staunch refusal to accept that there’s a difference between “using a browser” and “receiving advertisements that pop up over your content or in your notification bar.”

                You’re a shill for responding to mention of the half-truths they (and people like you) propagate with the dismissive “Wait you actually clicked the ads?”

                You’re a shill because you willingly admit that you don’t care about the shady shit they do, and you clearly don’t want other people to care.

                You’re a shill for implying that anyone who would point out the shady shit they do is simply dumber or less informed than you.

                • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
                  11·
                  vor 1 Jahr

                  Buddy you’re the only one who’s lying, telling people that “it has nothing to do with browsing” and that you have to click the ads to get BAT. Both of those are patently false and malicious statements.

          • Ganbat@lemmyonline.comEnglish
            21·
            vor 1 Jahr

            What are you on about? Clicking is literally the only way to get anything from it, period. I used to use Brave on both mobile and desktop, and that was true universally. You don’t get BAT unless you click the ads.

    • yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      93·
      vor 1 Jahr

      though brave has 2 issues you can’t turn off:

      • it’s chromium-based, and strenghtens the browser engine monopoly
      • the company behind it seems quite shady, and afaik the ceo/leader/founder/… is homophobic
      • marlowe221@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        vor 1 Jahr

        Yeah, obviously not great. Hence why I only use it for testing.

        I would love to ignore Chromium based browsers completely I’m a web developer, so I can’t.

        I wish there were a Chromium browser I could have the warm fuzzies about, but I’m not aware of one.

      • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
        11·
        vor 1 Jahr

        the browser engine monopoly

        I don’t think you understand what a monopoly is. Chromium was developed specifically to avoid a monopoly…

        • Atemu@lemmy.ml
          21·
          vor 1 Jahr

          Chromium was developed specifically to avoid a monopoly…

          [Citation needed]

          • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
            1·
            vor 1 Jahr

            No one at Google is going to say that out loud. But it’s a fairly obvious assumption.

            Same reason that Firefox is almost entirely funded by Google