“We are raising funds to support a critical legal defense in the fight against unchecked corporate power and a system that continues to favor the few over everyone else. This case isn’t just about one individual—it’s about challenging a status quo that protects the interest of the powerful at the expense of justice and fairness,” read one of the fundraising pages that was quickly removed by GoFundMe.

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    Fair, even if I think it’s a little naive.

    Say, a man is going to go and murder an entire city and to stop him you must kill him. You’re saying you wouldn’t support that and would be happy for a whole city to die instead?

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      So your saying the CEO of United healthcare murdered people? Then he should of been charged. People should not be Judge Dredd.

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        I am saying the system he helped caused people to die that did not need to die. I am saying it causes untold suffering to their families and friends.

        It seems to me that systemic suffering is fine as long as shareholder value is increased.

        Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

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        I live my life similar to Luigi, although to a lesser extent. In that I don’t let things like the law dictate what I will and will not do, more that I will weigh up the pros and cons of a particular action. When a person doesn’t believe the world is being run morally we will go off our own morals of what we believe is right and I truly believe the world would be a better place if certain people were not in it anymore. If you can kill 1 person and it improves the lives of say 100 people , then have at it and kill that sob.

        If you were in a room with Hitler before he came to power and you some how knew what he would go on to do, are you saying you wouldn’t have killed him?

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          Would i Kill Hitler? no, because i am not one to take someone’s life. I don’t think anyone has that right. and if it’s committed, they will be tried in court and thrown away in jail.

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            Appreciate your honesty, even if I think it’s a little misguided.

            I would have put a bullet in Hitler’s head without hesitation if I knew how many people he would go on to kill, I actually think it would be my responsibility to make the world a better place.

            If I was tried for that crime and sentenced to life in prison, then I would accept that as the cost of doing the right thing.

            Now I imagine Luigi wrestled with the same things and is happy to face charges for doing what he thought was right and I find that admirable, much more admirable than letting someone like Hitler cause millions of deaths because I didn’t want to get my hands dirty.

            I want you to know I am not judging you and I support your belief in your morals and where you draw the line, I just wanted to open a discussion as someone who is somewhere on the ASPD spectrum, it always interests me what lines people have and their reasons for them.

            Have a nice day. 😊

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                    Ok so here’s the thing. Some people will not stop murdering, and are in positions where they can get away with it. No chance to jail them, etc.

                    But since you’re cool with Hitler, guess you’re cool with that, too.

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                But you said you wouldn’t kill Hitler even if you had knowledge he would go on to cause millions of deaths. I think that is misguided, in that your reasoning isn’t sound. Because you think murder is wrong you would allow millions to die for the sake of one monster.

                Now if you’d come back and said something along the lines that perhaps someone else would have taken hitlers place and nothing would really have changed would have been a different discussion, but you didn’t so I have to assume you didn’t think that and you just object to murder, even to save a life.

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                  again, I don’t believe i have the right to take someone’s life, and nobody else does.

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            You believe you came to this value alone but it’s the kind of passivity the ruling class wants you to demonstrate. “Nobody is above the law” is another one, but the US just elected a 34-time felon.

            Starting to see things any more clearly yet? If not, look inward. Harder…