Fortunately I don’t have to.

You can have ours mate.

Just Teddy still funding those wars in South America.

I can accept that this current government in the USA is packed with the absolute most morally bankrupt people in America, but I just can’t conceive of the idea that 52% of Americans are the same.

What’s that in adults like 110 million? I’m not sure how many kids they have over there.

There just isn’t any chance that all those people are monsters too and you ain’t had a civil war. It seems more likely that most Americans have been propagandised by the media and they just only see what they want to see. I doubt every republican voter is watching the stuff we see as let’s be frank we’re likely all terminally online and more connected than they’re and it ain’t even my county.

Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

As say this as in the UK I know people that believe some crazy stuff about illegal immigrants (this term sucks and is a non issue) which has them wanting to kick them out and stuff but these people are not like that and get on with people from other countries but right now they’re blinded by the complete bombardment of that kind of content.

Maybe I’m naive, but I feel unlikely as I’m usually incredibly cynical.

I find this is all cars. They’ll either not indicate or indicate a ms before making a move. It’s as though they don’t understand they’re indicating for others benefit.

No that much isn’t clear. For Christ sake this is no better than what goes on on r/conservative.

We do not know. He might have rebelled from his family for all we know. He might be indifferent to both sides and think we’re both divisive and he might have killed Hasan just as easily.

It’s probable that it’s more someone on the right but we don’t clearly know anything and anybody saying they do is either biased or just looking to blame the other side and not actually find out the truth.

But you can’t know that. The killer might have amnesia.

The same would apply for all trials of murder.

Channel 4 is as wide an audience as you can get in the Uk as it’s one of the free channels that everybody has access to.

As for the even wider audience of the world I would hope they do put it in their YouTube.

No they’re not. We have people hanging flags everywhere with racist undertones and I’ve now seen America flags in my town. Like America is a bastion of what we want to become ffs.

I don’t want to say the average person is stupid but they’re easy to lie to and get on side apparently.

Channel 4 do put a lot of stuff on YouYube but you could likely use a VPN.

Hey someone has to pay for these server costs 😂

I got banned from there years ago for asking a question in a comment.

I’ve enjoyed the discussion too. Although I don’t agree that Charlie’s intentions were as you said but we can agree to disagree on that.

Have a great day.

Although The Guardian is a source I would trust, I can see that all those links are quoting the Utah Gov who has already been shown to be an unreliable source in this case. So we will see how that pans out.

Again. There is a difference between justifying the murder and being unbothered by it. For someone that wants to defend Charlie or at least not have people celebrate his death I find it odd as Charlie himself has said gun violence is the price of liberty.

Would you have shed a tear for Hitler? Would people have celebrated his death? Now Charlie isn’t Hitler but you get the idea. Bad man dead I don’t care. I’m not saying I think we should go kill more bad men but I’m not going to mourn a bully who wouldn’t mourn me if I was shot in a school shooting.

Thanks for the source. Very interesting if not terrifying that that dude got so many cheers and that people like Kirk are seemingly obsessed with a book written thousands of years ago. They don’t even stick to its teachings either. I’m sure half of America pretends to be religious as that’s how you get followers.

As to your point in law and order and violence. You’re correct that we all agree to a social contract and abide by laws etc. until that contract is broken, then people have nothing left to lose and you get a Luigi that takes matters into their own hands.

Ok. I’ll take back and not use that quote on the LGBQ stuff if you can provide a link to that video.

As I like to lead by example and show that I can accept correction and being told I was wrong and I will grow from that.

I’m not saying any of this is justification for his murder. I’m saying it’s justification for people not being sad about it.

Would be interesting to go back through your comment history to see if you supported the murder of Brian Thomson by Luigi Mangione to see if you supported that murder. For what it’s worth I did support that murder as we should send a message to people like him. But I don’t believe the same for Kirk.

Not heard about him living with someone else. Care to share a source or 5 as that’s a bold claim and I’ve read countless articles.

Celebrating seems like a strong word. I’m indifferent to his death as many on the left are. Why would I be sad that a hateful person that wanted to dictate how regular people lived tbh wit lives was killed by some nutter who was online more than me. You say this like the prominent right wing people online were not calling for a damn civil war over this. Those being Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, and Libs of TikTok. I can share a screenshot of them advocating for war when they fought it was a leftie.

Again you’re missing the point that I’m saying I don’t know if he was a left or right person and we should wait. Honestly I think he was someone in the middle who was radicalised online, but even then he is more right wing than left if my understanding of the obscure meme references he wrote on the bullets.

As for ideology what place is it for you to push your beliefs on other people. I don’t care if you believe in Jesus Christ. I personally think it’s insane but I won’t judge you for it if you keep it to yourself and not try and push it on other people. The kid was a bloody Mormon but I ain’t how here trying to ban LDS. In fact my boss is LDS and although I can’t comprehend believing in this stuff he is the smartest and nicest person I’ve ever met. I don’t judge him for his belief and he doesn’t judge me for mine. He doesn’t what he can to make the people around him better and live his life as my boss and a minister of his church. He isn’t out here trying to ban people being gay because why the fuck would you want to.

If Jesus was real you think he would be a fan of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. Cause if you do then you e not read the bible.

How would you like it if I tried to ban your religion because I don’t like it?

Charlie Kirk compared abortion to the holocaust. He believes that even rape victims as young as 10 should have e to carry to term. This is something that shows his lack of empathy. Sure you save a babies life but at the cost of ruining the life of the mother who was raped.

Charlie Kirk supported gun deaths as the cost of freedom. Mighty ironic that he was killed by a gun, he would be happy I assume. Unless he’s the kind of the only moral abortion is my abortion.

Charlie Kirk constantly opposed LGBTQ+ rights. Which seems awful to me. Like I don’t care what other people do or do not do. It ain’t my business and if they ain’t hurting people then crack on. Surely a Christian would be happy to let people live as they choose, after all he’s willing to let them die so he can have a gun.

Charlie Kirk called global warming a hoax. Dudes a clown. A dead clown.

Never imagined anybody would write that to one of my comments.