I can’t wait for the spectacular implosion

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    I thought we were supposed to get like protocol droids with AI. We just get protocols that steal all our data.

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    I think AI tools have (and will have) their uses, but AI as a whole has been hyped up so much for so long now that the bubble is bound to burst sooner or later.

    And when it does, hopefully we can go back to not having AI shoved into every fucking thing imaginable…

    No I don’t want an AI on my phone or computer trawling through all my data for you, just to give me some handy search feature I almost certainly won’t use.

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      I expect a creative destruction, like what happened with the dotcom bubble. A ton of GenAI companies will go bust and the market will be flooded with cheap GPUs and other AI hw which will be snapped on the cheap, and enthusiasts and researches will use them to make actually useful stuff.

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          Yes, my point is that the compute from those chips can still be used. Maybe on actually useful machine learning tools that will be developed latter, or some other technology which might make use of parallel computing like this.

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            I know of at least one company that uses cuda for ray-tracing for I believe ground research, so there is definitely already some usefull things happening.

            I mean there are a lot of applications for linear algebra, although I admit I don’t fully know in what way “AI” uses linear algebra and what other uses overlap with it.

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      I might want an ai on my computer, but only if it is a local, open source model that does not report any kind of data to outside parties in any way.

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        If that were the case, and it was something I chose, I certainly wouldn’t mind it anywhere near as much - but the ones being forced upon you by every tech company alive right now are none of those things, and are all data harvesters disguised as utilities.

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            The comment literally said that they might want an AI matching llama’s description and so linked them to a community on the same site that is relevant to their potential desires

            That’s the whole goddamn point of sites like this

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              look I know primary-school reading comprehension isn’t everyone’s favourite class but it shouldn’t be too hard to see the vast difference between the sentences “hmm does anyone have a link for some local llm stuff I can run on my own computers?” and “I might maybe want something like this, but defs only if it’s local and generally well-behaved and doesn’t snitch on me”

              and no, you doing a driveby comment while completely misunderstanding context is definitely not the point of this sub. we have stackoverflow at home.

              • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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                The fact that multiple people sent you links for learning more proves it’s you who can’t understand it.

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                  holy fuck. since I guess it’s the week when people wander in here and don’t understand fuck about shit:

                  we don’t want your stupid shit on our lemmy instance. none of us like the tech you’re in here pushing, even the openwashed version. now fuck off.

              • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                look I know primary-school reading comprehension isn’t everyone’s favourite class but it shouldn’t be too hard to see the vast difference between the sentences “hmm does anyone have a link for some local llm stuff I can run on my own computers?” and “I might maybe want something like this, but defs only if it’s local and generally well-behaved and doesn’t snitch on me”

                Again: one does not need to explicitly ask for a link to something for someone to reply with a relevant one, welcome to link aggregation websites

                and no, you doing a driveby comment while completely misunderstanding context is definitely not the point of this sub

                Providing more and relevant information on a topic by pinking elsewhere on this site is actually the point of the comment section on sites like this and is very normal

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                  you keep saying “this site” like you have exactly zero understanding of how any of this works, and on other days I would bet that’s probably right. but today I’ve taken a great couple of photos so instead I’m just going to forget that you posted and have a beer instead

                  (also: lol)

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      They are neat tools, if looked at realistically. They certainly don’t deserve to be called AI. I like to call them High Coherence Media Transformers.

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    I for one can’t wait for Dan Olson (Folding Ideas) to do a feature length deep dive takedown of it soon :D

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      That’d be a lot nicer than Ed Zitron non-stop unthinking whiny critique. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

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        don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

        Sending this to EZ so that he can put it as his by-line

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        as someone who grew up in an “old timey” baptist church, I am 100% comfortable with someone yelling things at me that I agree with, but ymmv.

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          Yeah, preaching emotions over critical thought sounds like better offline. I literally cancelled my premium Spotify because they didn’t give me a way to stop that show from auto playing after behind the bastards

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              That Ed Zitron is unpleasant and Dan Olson would do a much better job making the same point. What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do? Ed Zitron isn’t trying to convince anyone, he’s just whining to people that already agree with him and I find it extremely unconstructive

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                What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do?

                the penny’s never gonna drop, is it? let me save you the embarrassment

                • Draces@lemmy.world
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                  Because I’m whining to people that agree with me or something? I don’t know what you’re trying to say because not a lot of people seem to agree with me on this so that can’t be it

      • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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        Not quite so familiar with this Ed Zitron individual myself, but I agree that critique is best served with precision, clarity, wit, charm, and style. When someone holds a rhetorical position that is correct with regard to reality but articulates said position very poorly, it does a disservice to the discourse at large.

        People (albeit foolishly) very well might reflexively adopt an objectively false stance JUST because they don’t want to agree with someone so disagreeable.

        Or in other words, sometimes nothing makes an idea sound worse than the enthusiastic support of a moron.