• LandedGentry@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    68% in particular is stretching the term “vast majority” especially when that 32% is people who pay for insurance every fucking month for the explicit purpose of being covered.

    They aren’t asking for a handout. They are entitled to this coverage. They paid for it already!

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      This, I’m tired of the 1% saying we “Just want free stuff”, like we’re demanding Xboxes and snazzy T-Shirts with pictures of [Insert Profitable Brand Here]

      We’re asking for the systems we actively maintain (often against our will and under threat of homelessness, starvation, and death I remind you) to do anything for us.

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        We’re asking for the systems we actively maintain (often against our will and under threat of homelessness, starvation, and death I remind you) to do anything for us.

        WHAT? But the profits!

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        I wish it were only the 1% saying bullshit like that, but sadly it seems the majority of voters are sold on the idea.

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          Yes, but once they realize that THEY themselves are the Welfare Queens that the GOP they will wake the fuck up…

          I’m kidding, I’ve ran into several “The Government needs to keep its hands off my Medicare!” and “Where was Uncle Sam when I was on Food Stamps!?!”

          And they never take “The Government runs Medicare. This is like asking McDonalds to get their hands off of your Big Mac.” and “He was the gentleman giving you the food stamps” for valid answers.

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            It’s been 14 years, I don’t think they’re going to wake up unless we go door to door explaining how the GOP has been voting and the projected results of the legislatures.

            Example: “The government spends more on medical because of privatized care than if they simply distributed funds directly. Insurance companies pay all of their employees and CEOs on profits taken from people, a government program would have no profits to speak of. The government is distributing funds to these companies on the poor’s behalf, more funds than would just cover the care if we changed to a Single Payer system. This could actually lower your taxes if it went through, but it takes 60 senate votes and for over a decade one of the two major parties always votes against it in unison.”

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      Right right right, but that’s more than zero. That’s tens of millions more cases than zero. We need to understand every action, or inaction, will have consequences to make the best possible decisions. Some users are advocating armed violence against the offices that would be allocating funding for healthcare, not even the CEOs but the actual workers at the company, it is each of our responsibilities to weigh the pros and cons and examine all of our options to solve these problems.

      Theres no easy way. It’s not as simple as pushing a button or pulling a trigger.

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        Oh come the fuck on you can’t seriously be going “I’m just saying it’s not zero!“ and acting like this is the discussion at hand.