For a lot of situations kids will do what you want them to do if you actually explain why you want them to do it. Furthermore, public schooling is not one of those things, because 13 years of it is clearly not best for some students.
If it were about minimum knowledge than you would be able to test out of it, and those not meeting minimum requirements wouldn’t be able to graduate. But as it stands the top 10% of 8th graders know more than the bottom 30% of highschool graduates.
I got at GED. I also got a perfect score. Not because I’m some sort of genius, because there was not one single thing on it I hadn’t learned by the end of middle school.
No. When you go under 16 you are talking about a child that is too young to make executive decisions in the outside world that would be expected of an someone with a GED. High school and GED are culturally signs of being ready for adulthood. Under 16 is too young.
Where do people learn critical thinking skills? I was taught about propaganda and rhetoric in public elementary school (though, sadly, schooling in such matters was only in the “gifted” program). Though to be fair, I learned about pyramid marketing and the attraction of woo from my mother, queen of the pyramids, and experienced the targeted devaluing of education from my youth group pastor who was trying (with limited success) to keep from losing college kids “to the world.” The cognitive dissonance when I started college was extreme, to say the least.
In life, from family, from teachers(I’m not asking to defund public schools…), from the internet, self-taught, from books, etc. Many ways- clearly public schools aren’t effective for all students, so why are they condemned to it?
A lot of students don’t want to go to school but have no choice, both because of societal and legal pressures.
A lot of kids also don’t want to brush their teeth, go to bed at reasonable hours, or clean their rooms.
Kids don’t really get to just do whatever they want it turns out because they aren’t the best at taking care of themselves and making good decisions.
For a lot of situations kids will do what you want them to do if you actually explain why you want them to do it. Furthermore, public schooling is not one of those things, because 13 years of it is clearly not best for some students.
Yes, this is good. In order for society to run and all people to vote and participate in our country, we need a minimum education.
If it were about minimum knowledge than you would be able to test out of it, and those not meeting minimum requirements wouldn’t be able to graduate. But as it stands the top 10% of 8th graders know more than the bottom 30% of highschool graduates.
You can test out of it and get a G.E.D. Many people do.
I got at GED. I also got a perfect score. Not because I’m some sort of genius, because there was not one single thing on it I hadn’t learned by the end of middle school.
What age did you get it at?
So around the same age you would graduate high school anyways? That’s not really saving much time.
In my state and in many states you had to be at least 18 to be out of education. In many others its 16. Do you know of any examples lower than that?
No. When you go under 16 you are talking about a child that is too young to make executive decisions in the outside world that would be expected of an someone with a GED. High school and GED are culturally signs of being ready for adulthood. Under 16 is too young.
No, being 18 is the sign of that. There are 40 year olds without highschool degrees or GEDs, they’re still adults.
At the end of the day, it shouldn’t be about knowledge anyway, it should be about the ability to think and exercise sound judgment.
Agreed, but I’m not convinced school teaches someone that anymore than daily life does.
Where do people learn critical thinking skills? I was taught about propaganda and rhetoric in public elementary school (though, sadly, schooling in such matters was only in the “gifted” program). Though to be fair, I learned about pyramid marketing and the attraction of woo from my mother, queen of the pyramids, and experienced the targeted devaluing of education from my youth group pastor who was trying (with limited success) to keep from losing college kids “to the world.” The cognitive dissonance when I started college was extreme, to say the least.
In life, from family, from teachers(I’m not asking to defund public schools…), from the internet, self-taught, from books, etc. Many ways- clearly public schools aren’t effective for all students, so why are they condemned to it?