i’m so sick of these goddamn tankies
they’re literally just fascists painted red
they went so far into the spectrum that they overflowed into the opposite side
Word, anyone that thinks China should be the hegemon is deluded.
Painted RED? That’s RACIST ™!
I think you are confusing facism and authoritarianism.
Keep your political bullshit on hexbear and lemmygrad!
fr. the only political post I ever made was mocking tankie propaganda being posted to a non political meme community
That’s for that post btw. Was called for.
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it might be your instance not being fed’d with them
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I wonder if this is why I’ll see a post has a larger comment count than the comments I can read, too.
If you’ve blocked someone, that person’s comments and all comments replying to theirs are hidden from your view. This is my only guess why you might be seeing this. The comment count you see on your instance should be accurate, since it only counts comments it knows about and it doesn’t know about defederated ones.
Depending on the instance you are on and the blocks you have set up, your feed can be very full of the stuff
This is something that I consistently see that people still haven’t gotten used to with Lemmy and other federated sites. People often complain about what they see on their feed or sometimes attack an OP for reposting. I assume people just aren’t thinking about it since we’re all still used to Reddit and using a centralized platform where everyone can see the same stuff. But with Lemmy, it seems that people forget that their feed will be completely different, based on which instance they are in.
Is startreck.website federated with hexbear? When sh.itjust.workes got federated by hexbear a few days ago, about a third of all was tankie memes and discussion from hexbear. They mostly stayed to their communities, but sometimes I would come across comments on memes from .ml.
No a third of posts were people complaining they saw someone that might have been a tankie and demanding to live in a neo lib echochamber, I barely saw any actual tankie talking points
I’d estimate maybe 10% of posts were responding to the 35% of posts. But that’s just rough estimates. The tankie taking points were in the comments, the memes were often just saying America bad in different ways.
Oh, I guess if you count any criticism of America to automatically make somthing tankie then I guess maybe
You must not have been reading a lot of comments. It was getting borderline absurd for 2 days. They sound alright by description, but all they did was brigade the comment sections spewing crap at anyone a cm off of their ideology
I spend all my time in the comments, there were annoying pigpooping GIFs and some trash comments but also some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. It’s not like the comment sections never had trash comments and nonsence before.
I agree they were some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. But they were perspectives praising Russia’s and China’s horrible actions that I don’t really want to deal with. I gave some of them reasoned answers as well, but I would rather not see that junk daily. Thoughtful and well reasoned doesn’t mean it can’t also be horrible destructive tankie garbage.
and I had to block all those hexbear communities, cuz suddenly they flooded my feed
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Still shitty that everyone else also has to see and block that stuff… It surely doesn’t make an instance inviting for new users.
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I have seen my fair share of tankies here, so there definitely is a presence of them here. But I also do think a lot of the complaints come from people who assume any leftist user or post is also a “tankie.”
Like I do see a lot of leftist memes posted to memes@lemmy.ml, which might be where a lot of the complaints are coming from. Likewise there has been a lot of drama with hexbear federating with a lot of communities that were previously shielded from them.
I’m talking about hexbear as tankie specifically. I haven’t really seen any reasonable leftists on that instance. They use lib as an insult to give an idea.
There was a wave of tankie on Reddit and here during the reddexit. It was like, “where the fuck did stalin/mao/pol pot loving, atrocity denying weirdos come from en masse?” But you’re right the shock was bigger than the phenomenon.
Wtf, lmao. The only people calling pol pot communist are liberals.
TIL Marxist-Leninists (which Pol Pot was) are not communist.
No one called them communist here, they are just calling out people who are apologists for genocide.
Blehh yeah it feels a little astroturfy, all the push to conflating leftists with china-loving authoritarians. Makes a man wonder if libs actually stand for anything at all.
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It doesn’t help that the tankies are trying to push the idea that “Tankie is a slur against all communists/leftists!” The word “tankie” was invented by communists as an insult against those specific “communists” the cheer on brutal oppression of civilians – particularly when those civilians are communists themselves.
The irony is tankies hate the “wrong kind of leftist” just as much as their other ideological enemies.
I’ve known many tankies (myself included) and I’ve never met a single one that thought it was a slur, but ok. Those civilians were fascists uprising BTW.
Yes, the famous “fascist uprisings” where students demanded things like a return to democracy with free elections, putting local communist politicians in power in the interim, end of occupation by a foreign power or state military, end to media censorship and oppression of dissidents, and the return to local rule.
Yep, all of those revolutions were clearly the work of fascists.
Those are the things tankies defend. They self identify as communist, because anyone can call themself a communist. Tankies are the “communists” that blindly celebrate the instances of failure and oppression instead of denouncing or learning from them – that is what separates a tankie from normal, sane communists.
You’re probably right but i didn’t come all the way over here to hear you talk sensibly damnit
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UGH FINE. here is the new favorite recipe around this house, the surprise hit at the diner table this summer. kimchi noodles
Are you complaining about not seeing racism and genocide denial?
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My old neighbor’s cat sounded like that a couple of times a year, good ol Meow Zedong.
It’s funny because Māo is actually Chinese for “cat”
We’ll create our own instance with black jack and hookers and we’ll settle our political differences over a game of uno
Oh ffs, what now?
Drama between Hexbear and ShitJustWorks. Have some popcorn.
So who is the person on the bicycle in this scenario?
Hexbear. They’re an instance that exists mostly to troll and harass others, and have been defederated by most of Lemmy.
So… they’re not the ones defederating everyone?
They also tend to defederate in turn with anyone who blocks them.
my home instance hasn’t defederated them yet. super small instance, but still
We have so many communities about drama and not a single one seems active. I wonder if these users, who poured hours and hours of their lifetime into creating a bazillion dead communities the last few months, feel stupid for doing that.
We need to preserve our instance of 7 people using lemmy like a group text from the corruptions of the outside world.
We need more people on lemmy from all different backgrounds to balance these debates out. Defederation may still occur, but the majority will not be a bunch of radical lefties.
As tankies would say “diversity is our strength!”, so lemmy needs more diversity of opinion.
Tankies (commies) are like this everywhere it seems :D here orban from hungary:
ORBÁN: 2021 We dont’T NEED EU LOANS, THE ECONOMY IS RUMBLING!
2022 THE COUNTRY IS NEAR BANKRUPTCY, INFLATION IS IN THE SKY, FOOD PRICES, GASOLINE
ORBÁN-2022 EU GIVE ME A SMALL LOAN, STOP BEING JERK PLS
2023 GIVE ME EVEN MORE LOAN
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you go first, shitwad
You can do better than that
If you can’t coexist with people that have an opinion different from yours, you can’t coexist with anyone. And if you post controversial takes or memes, you better expect and accept the controversy. Oftentimes both sides can learn from it.
There are certain “differing opinions” that nobody should have to coexist with
Exactly. There’s opinions……and being an intolerant biggot (“not everyone should have civil rights”) or in the context of Russia, being a genocide apologist (…”from my point of view Ukraine is the fascist Nazi country!”)
I can coexist, I just would rather not feel the need to spend 6 hours explaining why Russia invading Ukraine is bad actually. (True story)
Spot the idealist.
That is such facile garbage. There are opinions that can be tolerated and there are those that should not.
If you can’t coexist with people that have an opinion different from yours
you are a fascist plain and simple
