I agree, but counterpoint. If you’re carrying a gun for political protection/self-defense, you also need to be trained and organized on gun safety, community protocols with guns, and collective action.
If you’re worried about a group of people coming up to murder you. I’m probably less worried about the police response to the fact that I own a weapon.
“Lie down and just get killed, because if you don’t you might get killed”
Once you back people into the corner. You won’t be going to jail.
I think in the context of the thread it was pretty clear I was saying that you’re unlikely to intimidate the police into backing down or to outgun them, not that you should just roll over in the face of any threat.
Be realistic about who that weapon is protecting you from, and who it’s just making fill out more paperwork and earn overtime.
That’s fair. Part of organizing community defense is making it absolutely clear that those who are known to be carrying become much more of a target by all fascists.
I agree, but counterpoint. If you’re carrying a gun for political protection/self-defense, you also need to be trained and organized on gun safety, community protocols with guns, and collective action.
but also
Argument being that if you do those things, it can just make them come at you even harder rather than the alternative.
If you’re worried about a group of people coming up to murder you. I’m probably less worried about the police response to the fact that I own a weapon.
“Lie down and just get killed, because if you don’t you might get killed”
Once you back people into the corner. You won’t be going to jail.
Alright.
I think in the context of the thread it was pretty clear I was saying that you’re unlikely to intimidate the police into backing down or to outgun them, not that you should just roll over in the face of any threat.
Be realistic about who that weapon is protecting you from, and who it’s just making fill out more paperwork and earn overtime.
That’s fair. Part of organizing community defense is making it absolutely clear that those who are known to be carrying become much more of a target by all fascists.