Yes, same is going on in Hungary for more than a decade:
we are useful to putin only if we are inside the eu, and they know it
economy is so much dependent on other eu countries that it would cost them way more than to the brits, state bankruptcy is very likely after an exit
“Brussel” is a very convenient nonexistant enemy, if something wrong happens they can just say “it was of brussel’s spite”
eu funds are easy to steal, and general population doesn’t even notice, the current decline of Orbán’s popularity started when eu funds were frozen, the same cronies still need a lot of money, and as there are no eu support normal taxpayer money have to be stolen, now everyome feels that
There’s a big disconnect between what politicians say and what they do. They say things to get support and then do whatever they want. Fico is perfectly capable of doing this to his own voters too.
It is very damgerous to ignore. I don’t think they want to leave while there is money to gain. But who knows what he talked about with Putin. In this day and age, I’m starting to be really fucking paranoid about this stuff
It’s dangerous to focus on words rather than actions. It’s been how most of the political elites (regardless of affiliation) have been behaving for so long that it’s hard not to pick up the pattern. Fico probably wants to score some points from EU-sceptics and PS screams bloody murder because that’s how they score points. Things are bleak and boring at the same time.
Yeah well… if PS just laid down and did nothing, once it got from word to action it’d be too late to stop them. Majority of Slovak people still think EU is a good thing per the last poll so PS needs to mobilize them. We can’t let Fico have it again come next election
This thing has been tried all over the world already and has been proven to be ineffective. It’s a broad topic I don’t want to get to but to put it simply: it doesn’t work because in most countries we’ve already had supposedly „correct” politicians and they didn’t do that much to make lives of all people better. It usually boils down to big cities vs province and province has had enough of being marginalised because they can no longer afford to pay their bills. There is no amount of calls to save democracy that will convince anyone to change sides at this point so it only serves to further polarise political discourse.
It’s more of a friendly suggestion to try something else. At the current going rate liberals will have to join leftists in being entirely irrelevant. Being the latter I’m used to it so I treat current events as a bit of a shakeup at the top. It doesn’t change anything about how rich keep getting richer at the expense of everyone else at an increasing rate since the 70s. If this doesn’t change then nothing else won’t. Might not be too late everywhere but good luck convincing anyone after both right and liberals demonised left for decades now.
Fico has more leverage if Slovakia is in the EU. Slovak opposition seems a bit desperate, it went similarly in Poland.
Yes, same is going on in Hungary for more than a decade:
Fico’s right hand said just recently that we should be ready to exit EU. So idk what you are on about
There’s a big disconnect between what politicians say and what they do. They say things to get support and then do whatever they want. Fico is perfectly capable of doing this to his own voters too.
It is very damgerous to ignore. I don’t think they want to leave while there is money to gain. But who knows what he talked about with Putin. In this day and age, I’m starting to be really fucking paranoid about this stuff
It’s dangerous to focus on words rather than actions. It’s been how most of the political elites (regardless of affiliation) have been behaving for so long that it’s hard not to pick up the pattern. Fico probably wants to score some points from EU-sceptics and PS screams bloody murder because that’s how they score points. Things are bleak and boring at the same time.
Yeah well… if PS just laid down and did nothing, once it got from word to action it’d be too late to stop them. Majority of Slovak people still think EU is a good thing per the last poll so PS needs to mobilize them. We can’t let Fico have it again come next election
This thing has been tried all over the world already and has been proven to be ineffective. It’s a broad topic I don’t want to get to but to put it simply: it doesn’t work because in most countries we’ve already had supposedly „correct” politicians and they didn’t do that much to make lives of all people better. It usually boils down to big cities vs province and province has had enough of being marginalised because they can no longer afford to pay their bills. There is no amount of calls to save democracy that will convince anyone to change sides at this point so it only serves to further polarise political discourse.
So we should just lie down and wait for the inevitable?
It’s more of a friendly suggestion to try something else. At the current going rate liberals will have to join leftists in being entirely irrelevant. Being the latter I’m used to it so I treat current events as a bit of a shakeup at the top. It doesn’t change anything about how rich keep getting richer at the expense of everyone else at an increasing rate since the 70s. If this doesn’t change then nothing else won’t. Might not be too late everywhere but good luck convincing anyone after both right and liberals demonised left for decades now.