• FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 days ago

    Your electoral arguments are all empty rhetoric. Not one of them is based on reality

    Since Occupy, what success has there been at carving out a space for leftists within the Democratic party? Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, AOC, and Jamaal Bowman. AOC couldn’t be brought to call the genocide in Gaza a genocide until a few months before the ceasefire, and her support of Biden until the last minute just shows that she’s a lot more concerned with her personal career than doing her job as a “progressive” (meaningless term! and she still can’t live up to it). Ilhan Omar and Jamaal Bowman were better at running opposition against the genocide but still were trapped within a party that is beholden to corporate interests more than anything else, so it was only Tlaib that ever actually said anything directly to Netanyahu. And all of this is just symbolic actions, because they’re powerless. To make matters worse, these are your most “progressive” figures in congress, and they’ll still bend the knee on every other foreign policy issue: they’ll go along with the Uyghur genocide claims, call Maduro a dictator, say almost nothing about the Cuban embargo unless Trump just put them back on the list (gotta #resist queens!), support regime change in Iran, etc etc. So there is no left in the Democratic party, there are only some figureheads that make “progressive” Americans feel like their job is done when they don’t represent any kind of threat or hold any kind of power. It’s an illusion, and you’d be much better off without these clowns at all so that regular Americans didn’t falsely believe they had someone in there fighting for them when the truth is they’re 100% on their own until they pick up a gun and join a union.

    • Tinidril@midwest.social
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      Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, AOC, and Jamaal Bowman couldn’t be brought to call the genocide in Gaza a genocide

      What the fuckity fuck does that have to do with inside vs outside electoral strategy?

      trapped within a party that is beholden to corporate interest

      Trapped within a SYSTEM that is beholden to corporate interests. You don’t get to dodge that bullet when running under a different party’s banner. In fact, you make it even easier for corporate media to shut you out.

      these are your most “progressive” figures in congress

      And, who are YOUR figures in Congress?! Oh wait you don’t have any. Well, that sure does make it hard to criticize them.

      …until they pick up a gun and join a union.

      Union membership shot up under Biden’s pro-union labor department. Now that the labor department answers to Elon Musk, how do you think that will impact union membership?

      If it comes down to picking up guns, I’d much rather be facing a liberal police force that at least tries to look like they respect constitutional protections. That’s not what you will get from Trump.

      We are in no way better off today because Trump won. Not politically, and certainly not in policy. All of your hand waving has still not even approached a discussion of how a third party strategy would work any better than all the deficiencies you rightly call out about the Democrats.