How Nissan and Honda's $60 billion merger talks collapsed
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Intransigence, combined with what Honda management saw as Nissan's slow decision-making, helped torpedo a deal that would have created one of the world's largest automakers.

Summary

  • Nissan’s pride and denial hindered merger talks, sources say
  • Honda pushed Nissan for deeper cuts to jobs, factory capacity, sources say
  • Nissan unwilling to consider factory closures, sources say
  • Honda’s proposal to make Nissan a subsidiary caused tensions, sources say
  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    6 hours ago

    Right, which is why I said they should’ve focused on price and reliability. They’re not going to lead on battery tech, so they should experiment with things like sodium ion batteries, which are much cheaper, have less fire risk, and they don’t need the range anyway for a commuter/around town car.

    Find a niche and fill it.

    • ColeSlothEnglish
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      4 hours ago

      Sodium ion is a dead end for ev. Heavy and not even remotely close to energy dense enough. It never will be.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        3 hours ago

        I thought it was something like 75% as energy dense? If you’re targeting a commuter with a max needed range of 150 miles, it seems more than sufficient.

        It’s not going to solve the range anxiety problem, but it’s inexpensive, which is perfect for a cheap, around-town second car, which is precisely what the Leaf should be.

        • ColeSlothEnglish
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          1 hour ago

          Usability wise for energy storage by weight, it’s more like 150wh compared to 250. They also don’t handle moving around as well, which is bad for vehicles. Then because sodium is a larger ion, they’re also always going to take up more space. So heavier and bigger makes them even less power efficient to move a vehicle and means heavier suspension and more tire wear.