• cogman@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yup. What are they actually advocating for? What are their true core beliefs?

    It should also be noted that there are groups you can control your membership of (political parties, religions) and groups you are forced into (ethnicity, sexuality). The group you choose to join speaks far more about how terrible or good you are. The worst groups and people are those that attack people based on groups they are forced into, bigots and fascists.

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      Well, i don’t think you can judge a group based on their characteristics, if the group is an ethnicity. What are characteristics that e.g. all white people share, which you can judge them for? Obviously none. Just like any and all “forced into” groups.

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          It depends on a lot of things.

          Mainly what does one mean with racism? If they mean exclusively systematical racism, then it is much more difficult, if not impossible, to be the victim of racism in e.g. the US as a “white” person. Like apparently 75% of the population in the US is “white”, how and why would 75% of the system, so effectively a controlling majority, turn the system against them? It seems at least unlikely.

          But as always, us defaultism or western defaultism in the English speaking world runs strong, and it gets completely ignored that there are probably some “white” people born and living in e.g. Japan. I am “white” and I lived in other parts of the world and met my (hopefully) future-wife there. There is systematical racism against “white” people out there.

          Now if you mean racism as discrimination by race, obviously it exists and I have experienced it. By a scream, I was angrily called a slur for standing in a park, about to sit down on a bench, by a person outside of the park on the walkway running past the park. I know they meant me as the slur means only that one thing, and there was literally no other “white” person there. Local friends confirmed that I heard it correctly and that there was no one else around. “White” people are so rare there that I would be stared at anywhere I would go, causing me to seek out private spots. Tbh i believe that place has systematical racism against a bunch of ethnicities, including “white” people. But I still think that moment is a good example for unprompted unmistakable racism.