• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    11 hours ago

    No, the CDU didn’t shift, they put someone from a different wing in the top position. I guess the long and short of it that neither Günther or Wüst were interested in a show-off with Merz who had bees up his arse ever after Merkel quit, given that she previously ousted him from the candidacy position. They’re both perfectly comfortable ruling their respective states, why bother, if Merz goes too far for their liking they’re still in a position to but brakes on that.

    Like, the CDU polls at around 40% in SH state elections, while the federal result is 27.6%. Everyone knows the CDU left wing has more pull than the right, they’re letting Merz be Merz.

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      4 hours ago

      Yes, they did shift. Their program is far more right-wing than a few years ago, the rhetorics, their propositions, are far closer to the AfD than even under Laschet.

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          The CDU as a party, as it states their goals inntheir program, the politicians their base elects as their leaders and speakers and the rhetorics that are popular.

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            I addressed that, there’s a reason I posted poll numbers and compared them to election results. Merz has nothing on Günther when it comes to pulling votes, if he (or Wüst) had ran for Merz’ office they’d very likely have won. And they would have run, had Merz been Gauland, or one of the Werteunion guys.

            Noone wanted to oppose Merz because he’s not too far right to be intolerable, also, it’s his turn. The CDU’s right and left wing have co-existed since the end of the war nothing about this is new and there’s whole states to keep Merz in check. We’re getting a bit of controlled CSU at the federal level.

            Also the migration debate is all but guaranteed to vanish as soon as people start talking about getting nukes.

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              Dude the policies the CDU argues and proposes for are more right wing than under Merkel and Laschet. I don’t care how well the left and right wing of the party work together or who has higher popularity rates, the difference between Willkommenskultur and Ehe für Alle on one side and “refugees take the germans’ dentist appointments”, anti-woke rhetorics, trying to raise majorities with the AfD or the Bezahlkarte on the other hand are stark contrast and an actual shift to the right!

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                26 minutes ago

                You’re listening to what politicians say? On top of that what they say on the campaign trail?

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                  Yes. I listen what they’ve been saying for years in talk shows I also read up on law propositions and voting behavior. I see their proposed policies, how they argue them, what gets implemented in state governments. Maybe you should, too.

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                    As you were talking about Bezahlkarte: Implementing law that was passed by the traffic light coalition? In SH the FDP accused Black-Green to be delaying implementation. Regarding cash the SH implementation follows the majority of states, you can pay online, it’s valid throughout the state as well as in Hamburg though that’ll require Hamburg to reciprocate. Hamburg is generally more restrictive with the thing and may I remind you they have an SPD government.

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      I’m sure they’re just “letting” the right wing take control as the world descends into fascism and “centrists” ally with fascists all over.