• Saleh@feddit.org
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    If not buying Russian gas, oil, coal, and other resources while also not selling machine and electronic parts that can be used in Russian weapons in your eyes is “weak, pointless and clownish” then i think you are not that serious about supporting Ukraine, as it might hurt business a little bit…

    EDIT: Also note that in regards to Germany the SPD, CDU and FDP were eager to continue business mostly as usual with Russia after the Crimea invasion, even selling German gas infrastructure to Russian companies… If we had had a Green Left government at the time they would have sped up the renewable energy and transport transition, which had reduced the dependence on Russian energy imports instead.

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      If if if.

      Right now Putins main goal is to stop weapon deliveries to Ukraine - a country struggling to defend themselves from a tyrannic imperalist force. The Linke want that too.

      I don’t see how anything else matters in this situation.

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        I don’t see how anything else matters in this situation.

        Russia is exporting about 500 Million € worth of Crude Oil, refined Oil and LNG per day with its ships, mostly through the Baltic Sea. A significant amount of that stuff either ends up in the EU directly or indirectly through India and Turkiye.

        On top of that are still double digit Million € worth of pipeline Gas to the EU.

        If you think that handing Russia 500 Million € every single day does not matter, you either don’t know what you are talking about or you don’t care about Ukraine as soon as it interferes with business.

        https://energyandcleanair.org/december-2024-monthly-analysis-of-russian-fossil-fuel-exports-and-sanctions/
        https://www.politico.eu/article/how-turkey-become-vladimir-putin-pit-stop-sell-camouflage-fuel-eu/

        for comparison Germany has approved arms exports worth about 14 billion € to Ukraine in 2024. So Germany has sent about 38 Million € of weapons to Ukraine per day, while sending about a 100 Million € to Russian proxies or even Russia directly in case of LNG per day.

        Tell me. If you give one side in a war 2,5x the money than the other side. Which side are you on?

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          Deflect much?

          Answer why Linke and Putin both want to stop weapon deliveries to Ukraine?

          Edit: I don’t actually think the Left is working with Putin. I think they are idiots that are helping Putin unknowingly. Plus, often tankies are in the most left parties, so it’s plausible there is some affection there.