Especially for the less tech-savvy among us?

    • chi-chan~@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      Because his grandma can’t type a password 30 characters long just to restore her messages.

      They are so smart and still make some choices that are so, so, *so dumb*. ‘No history on a new PC for you, it’s a ״feature״’. Seriously? c’mon.

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        History isn’t stored on the server so it can’t be automatically populated on a new device. That is a feature. The alternative, storing the messages on the server or having the means for one device to clone all of its messages to another device, would be insecure.

        A 30 character long password is required in order to have enough bits of entropy so that the backed up messages are actually secure.

        Grandma isn’t moving her data to a new PC without assistance, the person that is assisting her should be competent enough to operate Signal.

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      14 hours ago

      It is a centralized weak point that US feds can easily extract meta data from to obtain your social network etc

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        4 hours ago

        A bigger weak point is having weak encryption like Session has. Also, you cannot obtain metadata from Signal. They’ve gone to great length to prevent that. Signal servers don’t even know who is talking to whom.

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        7 hours ago

        easily extract metadata

        That’s a pretty big claim to make with zero additional information.

        Since 2018, Signal has been encrypting the sender data with a key that isn’t known to the server. Messages do not contain unencrypted metadata. I’m not sure how you expect the FBI to do this with the information available to the Signal servers.

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            6 hours ago

            at role does the signal server play?

            If this is a question that you need answered then I’m not sure you’re qualified to declare that Signal is insecure.