• tsonfeir@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    That’s because they’re not communists. They’re anarchist trolls making fun of everything—including themselves.

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      I’ve gotten serious pushback from them for advancing basic anarchist ideas. The prevailing ideology amongst hexbear users is not anarchist.

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        Well, that is contrary to my experience. Most of them say tear it down and destroy it and then if it survives, fill it with communism. That’s anarchy.

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              They like to talk about left unity, but all their heros sent the secret police after “left socialists” like anarchists and unionists

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                Their heroes are just textbook communists they throw around.

                I bet if you gave each one a billion dollars they wouldn’t share a dime. Everyone’s a communist when they’re poor.

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            I’ll agree it’s weaker than my ability to identify a communist. So whatever you call them, it’s not communism. It’s just lip service.

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              I can appreciate the desire of modern communists to avoid a repeat of how things went with the USSR, China, etc. However, I don’t think you can wholly repudiate the tankies as non-communist.

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                  I mean, I guess, maybe? I think Marxism-Leninism is a fucked up ideology, but I don’t categorically doubt the sincerity of MLs. They’d probably put any sudden windfall towards some sort of vanguard party centralized power bullshit that they think will eventually lead to communism, as is consistent with their ideas.

                  As an anarchist, I don’t think that would be a good use of the money, but I don’t have any particular reason to believe that they’d be more hypocritical about it than any other communist or leftist.

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          Marxism-Leninism/Stalinism fell out from communism and with its purges can be considered anti-communist.

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      Hmmm. They’re not very happy about anarchism either. Accelerationism fits somewhat if one would try to pin it but there’s a diverse range of users.

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        As far as I can tell, they’re contrarian authoritarians. That is, they support strongman dictatorships primarily because doing so shocks the sensibilities of and upsets the people around them. It’s childish nonsense without any rigor.

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      They’re anarchist trolls

      Maybe a few, but there’s no reason to think that there’s any more than that, let alone a majority. There’s no shortage of actual tankies in the world, so why should hexbear be some elaborate ruse?

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        Haha. At least they aren’t lawless, letting people do whatever they want.