I’m gonna get real with you folks, we’ve had way too many of these posts recently. I’ve been reflecting on this topic a lot the past few days. For me personally, I couldn’t care less about my gender identity. But just because that’s true for me, doesn’t make that true for everyone.

The beauty of the fediverse is that if you don’t like the way a particular instance or community is moderated you can simply choose another to hang out on, or create your own.

Blajah has made it pretty clear by now they will ban anyone who argues against the validity of xenogenders, in order to create a safe space for those folks. That’s fair enough imo.

Safe spaces should be respected, and Blajah’s admins/mods do not deserve abuse for creating and maintaining those spaces.

I can completely understand why Blajah users don’t want to have to constantly argue with external users about the validity of their chosen identities. Bans are one way Blajah has decided to manage that problem so that their users can experience lemmy in relative peace and safety. While it is a blunt tool and I have my reservations about preemptive bans, there are not many other options for @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone, other than defederation from most instances. That would be a terrible outcome for the fediverse as a whole.

In order to help Blajah to maintain their safe space, I would like to propose, if @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com agrees and community sentiment is positive:

  • that we no longer accept posts about this topic in this community; and
  • we also remove previous posts on this topic from the community.

That’s all folks, have at 'er.

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    But complaining about receiving a ban from a protective community with strict conduct policies is certainly not the intent of this community, i don’t think.

    Is that all it takes to be immune from PTB status? Being a ‘protective’ community, but only towards the ‘right’ people who think in the ‘right’ way?

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      Maybe it is? Don’t non-binary people have a right to moderate their own space as they like?

      If they have a rule against gatekeeping gender identities and pronouns in their own instance, don’t they have a right to remove offenders from their servers?

      You’re all over this topic today, maybe just take a second and listen to what the community is saying. You’ve more than said your piece.

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        6 hours ago

        And what about queer people who don’t play the pronoun police power tripping game? We should just go fuck ourselves I guess

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        Don’t non-binary people have a right to moderate their own space as they like?

        Sure, though it seems as if their right extends to not being satirized in other communities for being power-tripping bastards. Don’t they have a right to not be criticized for stifling any discussion and banning people based on vibes and posting history, using thought-terminating cliches in place of arguments? Well, it seems they do.

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        14 hours ago

        Maybe it is? Don’t non-binary people have a right to moderate their own space as they like?

        Is there a group out there that doesn’t have the right to moderate their own space ‘as they like’?

        If they have a rule against gatekeeping gender identities and pronouns in their own instance, don’t they have a right to remove offenders from their servers?

        “They have the right” and “It is always the correct call” are two entirely different concepts.

        You’re all over this topic today, maybe just take a second and listen to what the community is saying. You’ve more than said your piece.

        Yeah, well maybe I’m fucking pissed that I just watched a user get harassed out of the Fediverse because Blahaj wants to play harassment games on other people’s instances, and that I’m the one who had to fucking bring it up to be discussed. Maybe I don’t like the idea that if I stayed quiet this all would’ve been swept under the rug.

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          14 hours ago

          Jesus

          I haven’t a clue what event you’re referring to even though I feel as though I’ve encountered nothing but your comments today. If your goal is to discuss a specific abuse then you’ve done a piss poor job of it.

          I’d recommend reaching out to @dbzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com if you think there’s been that severe of an abuse that’s happened, and the community mod hasn’t addressed it well enough.

          Honestly, though, it just seems like you have an axe to grind and you’re taking it out on everyone else. Either settle it with the admins or cool off a bit, you’re souring the space for everyone by flaming out like this.

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            I haven’t a clue what event you’re referring to even though I feel as though I’ve encountered nothing but your comments today.

            I’ve summarized the events in this thread alone at least twice.

            My opinions on xenogender aside, the fact that Blahaj defenders, in this very comm, harassed a trans user into leaving the Fediverse has me fuming, and rightfully so in my opinion. And they play it off as “[The harassed user] deserved it.” even now. That is pretty core to the anger I feel right now.

            Uh, considering recent events, where Blahaj defenders dogpiled a trans person on another instance for disagreeing with them, you sure about that

            Most of my comments have been refutations to specific arguments put forth in the context of those events.

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                  I personally find people identifying as animals a bit weird, but honestly, its their life and they’re not harming anyone, so whats the deal with it?

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                    I mean, I don’t necessarily disagree. What’s pertinent here, though, is that the position that identifying as animals is weird is a position worthy of getting a trans person accused of being a transphobe and a fascist, and dogpiled until they left the Fediverse entirely.

                    Clearly, regardless of your position on the abstract matter of animals and identity, the behavior of the local community is less than stellar.

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              14 hours ago

              Do you have something more specific than your (purely objective) recounting of what happened? A link to it?

              At the moment, I’m not sure I’d trust you if you told me the sky was blue

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                  12 hours ago

                  it looks like you’re geting angry about something third hand that another person reported as happening to them that even they’re not 100% on the causative factors but strongly suspect.

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                    12 hours ago

                    There was a second ban that happened in that thread which I noted in a comment. And then, after the events of the thread, the user decided to leave the Fediverse entirely after, as a trans person, being repeatedly and insistently called a transphobe and fascist while other users backed the sentiment.

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                    14 hours ago

                    That post is about a different user, a trans user, who was banned for comments they made on my post, which is not linked to directly.

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        12 hours ago

        Boy you sure are pissed you got blocked before getting to say a slur.

        what