You know that there’s shops all over the place who will fix cells in bad packs? Replacing the whole battery is FUD similar to warning someone they need to replace their whole engine if there’s any issue.
Not talking about replacing the battery, I’m talking about every part having an encrypted module that only the dealership has the key to, meaning only the dealership can replace the part.
edit: and also the fact that most of them have that stupid giant tablet instead of buttons, and spy on you without consent.
edit 2: the other reply proved my point. you shouldnt have to take your car to the dealer for repairs. You should be able to do it yourself if you wanted to. The dealer shouldnt own a repair monopoly.
It isnt, but unless you sink the price of a new car into an EV-conversion kit, the only options are older gas cars for consumer-friendliness unfortunately.
IME, (2019 Volt) maintenance costs are lower with a PHEV. I have needed to take it to a dealer to deal with a OBD2 code that neither I nor my local mechanic could resolve, but the replacement part and labor was reasonably priced.
As a right to repair advocate, the fact you had to take it to the dealer is a turn off for me. I’ll be driving my 03 shit box til it dies or I move to a country with good public infrastructure
Eh, I had to take my Saturn (previous vehicle) to the dealer several times. The car before that was ruined by a “shade-tree” mechanic, so when I lived in the same city as the dealer I preferred that.
I’m with you on right-to-reapir tho. It would have been better if the diagnostic methods and parts were available from other than the dealer (and maybe they were and the local guy just didn’t want to mess with it, doesn’t do a lot of EVs at his shop). But my experience with cars is mostly that dealers have that advantage whether you go electric or not, and I prefer electric.
Still let me know if I can do something to improve right to repair for me or others.
Other than writing your Congress-people (lol) or donating to non-profits that support Right to repair I have nothing at the moment. In my (limited) experience it seems that most cars built after 2010 have some sort of “only the dealership” type thing built in, so at the moment its kind of just “buying used”. Ive been considering getting an early model Prius when my car goes (pre 2015) but, depending on how the rest of this presidency plays out I may not even be in the country.
Except they made sure you couldn’t repair it so You’ll end up dropping that 50k once every 5-10 years anyway 🤪
(Im pro-EV btw. just wish EVs were pro-me)
You know that there’s shops all over the place who will fix cells in bad packs? Replacing the whole battery is FUD similar to warning someone they need to replace their whole engine if there’s any issue.
Not talking about replacing the battery, I’m talking about every part having an encrypted module that only the dealership has the key to, meaning only the dealership can replace the part.
edit: and also the fact that most of them have that stupid giant tablet instead of buttons, and spy on you without consent.
edit 2: the other reply proved my point. you shouldnt have to take your car to the dealer for repairs. You should be able to do it yourself if you wanted to. The dealer shouldnt own a repair monopoly.
How is that any different from a modern gas car?
It isnt, but unless you sink the price of a new car into an EV-conversion kit, the only options are older gas cars for consumer-friendliness unfortunately.
IME, (2019 Volt) maintenance costs are lower with a PHEV. I have needed to take it to a dealer to deal with a OBD2 code that neither I nor my local mechanic could resolve, but the replacement part and labor was reasonably priced.
As a right to repair advocate, the fact you had to take it to the dealer is a turn off for me. I’ll be driving my 03 shit box til it dies or I move to a country with good public infrastructure
Eh, I had to take my Saturn (previous vehicle) to the dealer several times. The car before that was ruined by a “shade-tree” mechanic, so when I lived in the same city as the dealer I preferred that.
I’m with you on right-to-reapir tho. It would have been better if the diagnostic methods and parts were available from other than the dealer (and maybe they were and the local guy just didn’t want to mess with it, doesn’t do a lot of EVs at his shop). But my experience with cars is mostly that dealers have that advantage whether you go electric or not, and I prefer electric.
Still let me know if I can do something to improve right to repair for me or others.
Other than writing your Congress-people (lol) or donating to non-profits that support Right to repair I have nothing at the moment. In my (limited) experience it seems that most cars built after 2010 have some sort of “only the dealership” type thing built in, so at the moment its kind of just “buying used”. Ive been considering getting an early model Prius when my car goes (pre 2015) but, depending on how the rest of this presidency plays out I may not even be in the country.