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    • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip
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      5 hours ago

      Despite your stance/tone I’ll answer this in good faith and assume you’re genuinely asking even if I think you’re not.

      The best lies/misinformation attempts are couched in 1) truths and/or 2) plausible things that can’t be dismissed as impossible.

      It is plausible [insert any JFK assassination conspiracy]. Should they all be equally weighted? Is each equally plausible? No, yet dozens persist because they’re at all plausible. I say this as someone who says the least plausible scenario was lone gunman who was killed by some rando. I think it was a conspiracy. But it doesn’t mean I treat each conspiracy theory as equally plausible. Unfortunately it’s hard to 100% disprove basically anything, so even the worst ideas remain sticky if people want them to be true.

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        4 hours ago

        Thanks ❤️

        In any case, all this is very little proof that the story is a falsehood. Obviously, by default everything you read online falls to the category “this may have happened”, but that’s all we really have.

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          4 hours ago

          The burden of proof squarely lies with OP. You didn’t ask me to prove it’s false. You asked me to explain my previous comment.

          • Tuukka R@sopuli.xyz
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            4 hours ago

            Yup, because the burden of proof is on the one who made the claim. But that only allows us to say the text is not necessarily true.

            When you say the op is lying, that’s a new claim, where the burden of proof is on you.

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              4 hours ago

              Actually the burden of proof not necessarily always on the one who made the claim. But it is on the person who has the less credible claim.

              I don’t need to prove it’s false. I just need to demonstrate that, taken at face value, the more prudent thing to do is assume this post is at least partially made up. And given the details of it, the most likely scenario is that the story is not 100% true.

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                4 hours ago

                …although, because selling a house ASAP if you have a loan with large payments for it, is the only logical course of action if long-term unemployment is assumed, nothing to that extent has been demonstrated.

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                  4 hours ago

                  I have addressed this point several times across several comments. Surely you’ve seen it.