Considering we can’t even get heads or state or imagining-they’re-heads-of-states to not:
Wage war on neighboring countries.
Try to usurp their own government.
Promote wild conspiracy theories.
Be ragingly against personal freedom even in the US, the countries that is supposedly all about that.
Be ragingly anti-intellectual.
… I really have exactly zero hope we can do shit-all about climate issues. We can’t even handle far smaller and far more benign (by comparison) issues on a national level, what hope do we have to handle things that require everyone to pull in the same direction, on an international one.
… I really have exactly zero hope we can do shit-all about climate issues. We can’t even handle far smaller and far more benign (by comparison) issues on a national level, what hope do we have to handle things that require everyone to pull in the same direction, on an international one.
you wanna hear something even more depressing? people first started talking about the greenhouse effect (though it wasn’t called that,) in 1824. (Fourrier and Pouilett were the first two. Fourier in 1824, and pouillet in 1836 or so,). In 1896, we have the first scientist getting concerned about it. that credit goes to Svanta Arrhenius.
Oh. and Popular Mechanics ran an article about it being a problem in 1912. complete with this picture:
In short. We’ve known for over a century and still fucked the earth up.
That’s impressive, though I don’t really get what that has to do with my post. In fact I was sure you had replied to me in that topic about Ecosia from the other day. 😅
See this is such a unique problem. We really should be happy for anyone doing anything to try and mitigate the issues we are seeing and even small acts like planting trees or me letting wildflowers and native plants grow in my yard is better than nothing…
But also on the scale we are at it does only enough to make a very small local subsect of creatures better off and does nothing for the big ticking clock overhead. We should praise andly activity but try to be aware of the need to go further and do more but we lack the ability.
It’s like this endless spiral of people priding themselves on fixing issues to get a sense of relief from the reality and is it kind or cruel to point out the forest instead of the tree people are focusing on?
What is it about trees? Any time someone posts something about the problems of some plans to fight climate change on Lemmy or Reddit, someone posts a reply like yours. And every tine news about climate activists are posted, someone else posts something about that they had better planted some trees.
Planting trees is a commendable effort and a great first step, but you do know that (if I understand earth’s climate history correctly) earth was covered in trees when CO2-levels were as high as today or even higher? Only by sequestrating fallen trees underground through sedimentation (and converting them to coal and later oil) did CO2-levels in the atmosphere begin to drop.
I am actively doing something rather than sitting around being a keyboard warrior netizen. Are you actively doing anything other than criticism of people taking proactive roles?
Considering we can’t even get heads or state or imagining-they’re-heads-of-states to not:
… I really have exactly zero hope we can do shit-all about climate issues. We can’t even handle far smaller and far more benign (by comparison) issues on a national level, what hope do we have to handle things that require everyone to pull in the same direction, on an international one.
you wanna hear something even more depressing? people first started talking about the greenhouse effect (though it wasn’t called that,) in 1824. (Fourrier and Pouilett were the first two. Fourier in 1824, and pouillet in 1836 or so,). In 1896, we have the first scientist getting concerned about it. that credit goes to Svanta Arrhenius.
Oh. and Popular Mechanics ran an article about it being a problem in 1912. complete with this picture:
In short. We’ve known for over a century and still fucked the earth up.
“A few centuries… That’s next week’s problem. No one I ever know will be alive to see that.”
How many trees did you plant this week? I planted around 10 so far.
That’s impressive, though I don’t really get what that has to do with my post. In fact I was sure you had replied to me in that topic about Ecosia from the other day. 😅
Yes, actually I think that was me.
Good for you, top effort. That’ll have exactly 0 affect on the climate crisis though…
See this is such a unique problem. We really should be happy for anyone doing anything to try and mitigate the issues we are seeing and even small acts like planting trees or me letting wildflowers and native plants grow in my yard is better than nothing…
But also on the scale we are at it does only enough to make a very small local subsect of creatures better off and does nothing for the big ticking clock overhead. We should praise andly activity but try to be aware of the need to go further and do more but we lack the ability.
It’s like this endless spiral of people priding themselves on fixing issues to get a sense of relief from the reality and is it kind or cruel to point out the forest instead of the tree people are focusing on?
What are you doing about it rather than being a keyboard warrior netizen then?
What is it about trees? Any time someone posts something about the problems of some plans to fight climate change on Lemmy or Reddit, someone posts a reply like yours. And every tine news about climate activists are posted, someone else posts something about that they had better planted some trees. Planting trees is a commendable effort and a great first step, but you do know that (if I understand earth’s climate history correctly) earth was covered in trees when CO2-levels were as high as today or even higher? Only by sequestrating fallen trees underground through sedimentation (and converting them to coal and later oil) did CO2-levels in the atmosphere begin to drop.
I make biochar, how much biochar have you made this week?
You also suck oxygen.
I am actively doing something rather than sitting around being a keyboard warrior netizen. Are you actively doing anything other than criticism of people taking proactive roles?
I live in a tiny apartment in the middle of a city.
Where the fuck would I make biochar.
A community garden.