Warp: Your terminal, reimagined
www.warp.dev
Warp is a modern, Rust-based terminal with AI built in so you and your team can build great software, faster. Now available on MacOS.
  • IWriteDaCode@programming.dev
    34·
    1 year ago

    I will never be able to get behind a subscription-based terminal, with so much competition in the FOSS space for terminals, there’s just no reason to.

  • syl@programming.dev
    19·
    1 year ago

    I checked the about page and damn… It is a for profit company and quite a big team! It consists of 26 people (!) to build a terminal… It is probably going to be a subscription at some point… Not for me.

    • IWriteDaCode@programming.dev
      14·
      1 year ago

      Damn, 26 people, let’s assume they get paid reasonably well, though they probably aren’t all developers. I’m going to assume 100K on average, just spit balling.

      That’s two and a half million dollars per year to build a terminal (very conservative estimate). And, like, does it reeeeealy do more then other terminals? Especially when you include different shells with plugins? AI, it’s so hot right now, but it is better than zsh or fish autocomplete? I built the simplest AI shell script to ask GPT-4 questions, easy, many FOSS options already out there, is that not good enough for people?

      Yeah, I’m just having trouble figuring out how this isn’t a waste of time and will implode when seed funding dries up.

    • traches@sh.itjust.works
      161·
      1 year ago

      The rust language is designed to prevent entire classes of bugs which are common in other languages, so in theory rust code should be less buggy and more “correct” for the same amount of effort.

        • snowe@programming.devM
          8·
          1 year ago

          I’ve been trying to add features to the site by modifying lemmy and holy cow I completely forgot just how difficult Rust is, especially with hardly any documentation. It’s taking me hours to do something that would take 20 minutes in Kotlin or 5 in Ruby. You get a lot of safety but it does come at a cost.

          I’m still enjoying it though, but it is making my head spin.

          • keef@programming.dev
            5·
            1 year ago

            Yeah its definitely a bit of a leap to start to grasp. I’ve been working with rust for a little but still consider myself a baby but damn is it a fun thing to invest into. So many layers and interesting ideas to learn

            What parts are you enjoying??

            • snowe@programming.devM
              4·
              1 year ago

              the part where if it compiles it will almost 100% of the time work. Of course, that’s not completely the case with some of the database stuff, but pretty much everything else works.

              • einsteinx2@programming.dev
                1·
                1 year ago

                I feel like I also had the “if it compiles it works” experience with Golang as well, but holy cow is it a much simpler and easier to work with language. I want to like Rust, I really do, but even just the syntax is painful to look at lol.

                Also the cult-like community is a bit off putting…never seen anything quite like that for any language…

                It does seem to have some genuinely solid benefits though so maybe one day I’ll get into it.

                • snowe@programming.devM
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  Yeah I tried Go and absolutely hated it. Way too many downsides to it as well. I am surprised it grew as a language at all.

        • traches@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          1 year ago

          I guess I phrased that poorly - yeah you’ll move faster in other languages, but then you’ll have a long tail of debugging. Rust will take longer at first, but you’ll have less debugging to do once it’s working.

    • leviosa@programming.dev
      11·
      1 year ago

      It’s got AI too, which means it’s extra sparkly good. But points deducted for no blockchain features or running as a bunch of microservices.

    • taladar@sh.itjust.works
      8·
      1 year ago

      Honest answer? Because many of us are tired of experiencing the same bugs over and over again for decades.

    • dukk@programming.dev
      6·
      1 year ago

      Rust generally means more stable software. Anyone who’s developed a Rust app knows how uncompromising the borrow checker is.

  • TehPers@beehaw.org
    8·
    1 year ago

    I think the devs have already been made aware, but warp is also the name of a well known web framework for Rust.

    • hallettj@beehaw.org
      6·
      1 year ago

      Yes; I met one of the devs a while ago, and we had to have a little disambiguation conversation when he said, “I work on Warp.”

    • sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works
      39·
      1 year ago

      Top comment from HN discussion:

      Makes it a complete no-go for me

      iamdamian 9 days ago

      I check out Warp every 6 months or so, because I’d love to see more innovation with the terminal, and the screenshots look great. But the story’s the same every time: I download the app, fire it up, and am greeted by a mandatory ‘sign up’ screen and privacy policy, at which point I close and immediately delete the app.

      I will never be okay with a terminal that requires me to have a proprietary login to operate on my own local file system with local tooling.

    • Luvon@beehaw.org
      1·
      1 year ago

      I love it, has lots of sensible things that should have been fixed forever ago. You can just edit the input like normal text.

      It makes blocks out of output which makes navigating output much easier

  • sirdorius@programming.dev
    1·
    1 year ago

    It seems to do a lot of interesting new things, but the subscription and registration model makes it a no go. Still, this is a net positive, as it might give some new ideas for a FOSS implementation similar to it.