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airportline@lemmy.zip to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago

Can we please stop arguing about whether Bluesky is decentralized?

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Can we please stop arguing about whether Bluesky is decentralized?

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airportline@lemmy.zip to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago
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Nobody's changing their minds at this point, so let's stop wasting our time.
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    ?

    I would agree with your statement that “all social medias of that scale did that” except that bluesky is decentralized, and the way ATproto works means that you can migrate off of them without their consent, basically.

    The current leadership seems dedicated to making it good, and I somewhat trust that’s not just pr shit because they have done stuff like moderation lists that are cool, but not at all necessary for advertising decentralization. They were also very upfront about the flaws their federation had.

    Also, it’s a public benefits corporation, and all their stuff is open source.

    If you want to go “oh they’re vc funded”, well, so is framework, and people love them.

    I get your main argument is that bsky is the only mainstream instance, but that’s just for now. Enshittifying a company like bluesky takes a while, and by then other viable platforms will exist.

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      Bluesky is not decentralized.

      public benefits corporation

      A meaningless term. Elon’s xAI is a public benefit corporation and their product spreads Nazi propoganda.

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        Well, you completely ignored all my arguments except the one you could find issue with.

        Yes, it’s concentrated on one instance, but that will change before it enshittifies.

        You can migrate accounts.

        You keep linking back to that page not understanding that that concentration is a result of it being first built up as a centralized platform, then opened to other instances. There has not been enough time for other instances to pop up.

        By that same logic according to that page git isn’t decentralized and nobody should use it, because microsoft owns an instance with >90% of the users.

        I hope you can see the flaw in that logic.

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            …except it isn’t centralized, since anyone can host their own instance that doesnt depend on bsky.social

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              https://blackskyweb.xyz/ as an example

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                • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip
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                  The Blacksky page has a “Migration” link in the sidebar: https://tektite.cc/

                  On https://blacksky.community/starter-pack/rudyfraser.com/3kvubqmzzi32t

                  Migrating from Bluesky? Use Tektite.cc to move your followers, posts, and media to Blacksky.

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                    Your example is statistically irrelevant https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/

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              • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip
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                Then what is https://blackskyweb.xyz/

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                Except they literally aren’t, there are many users that aren’t on that “single place”

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