The 12-year-old Israeli girl whose “Harry Potter”-inspired photo went viral after she was kidnapped by Hamas has been found dead alongside her grandmother in Gaza.

  • mean_bean279@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t think this girl or her grandma went to Gaza of their own accord. Bringing people into an area you’re going to make a war zone after an attack still makes you at fault for their death.

    • kurwa@lemmy.world
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      I’m sorry, is Gaza doing a bombing campaign on itself? Hamas is horrible, but bombing hostages and civilians is not the right play here. All of you calling these bombings justified don’t want peace or justice, you want revenge. And that revenge costs more innocent people’s lives.

      • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        If a bunch of Hamas terrorists drag a 12 year old into the path of an incoming bombardment, they’re still the ones responsible for that death.

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          1 year ago

          Full stop, it’s always the one who sent the missle who kills the person and is responsible. It’s always up to them to verify that civilians aren’t around the target. Isreal doesn’t care about childrens being a victim of their attacks.

          • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Oh?

            So, if I shoot at you and hide behind a child, it is your fault for defending yourself? Not mine for TAKING A HOSTAGE?

            • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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              If I shoot back while you’re behind that child, it shows how little I care about the child, or at the very least conflicting priorities.

              • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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                And what happens when the person hiding behind that child is shooting at other children? You do the best you can, but sometimes, shit happens.

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              The missle was miles away, no one was in danger when it was sent except the literal person that it killed (and a bunch of civilians that probably had nothing to do with it, half of them statistically children)

              When there is a hostage situation, the cops don’t bomb the whole building even when shot at. Any hostage death directly caused by an officer is a complete and utter failure.

              I reject your rhetoric. Your analogy is clearly not apt and still points to unacceptable behavior.

              Isreal does not care about the hostages, they do not care about the civilians and children casualties. They are killing swaths of people to steal land, to cleanse whole towns ethnically and to “teach” Hamas a lesson.

              I’m constantly surprised how easy it is for certain people to cheer on genocide and mass murder. You should be ashamed.

        • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
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          Well maybe israel shouldn’t bomb the area and focus on saving the hostage like everyone have told them, she wouldn’t be dead

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          Someone ordered the bombing. They’re to blame. Should we go back to the Nakba, the Balfour Declaration and the British mandate? Or are we aiming for the Garden of Eden and original sin? Let’s take the philosophical route and delve into the origins of human nature. Maybe she’s still alive in another universe. The inability for some to see the context of history and the cause and effect that occurs limits my hope for humanity. We have the ability to seek and learn knowledge, but choose not to, based on some indoctrinated belief system that was neither designed or chosen by the vast majority. God works in mysterious ways.

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            Hamas started the war and hid in cities, trying to make sure enough civilians were around that Israel had trouble retaliating after they launched their rockets at civilians. They’re genocidal terrorists who are religious fanatics. I’m gonna blame them for their hostage dying. If you aren’t, that’s a you problem.

              • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                You can either insist there’s been a consistent conflict since 1948, which was started by the Arabs, or you can mark the beginning of the current conflict at the massive terrorism attack by Hamas this year. Take your pick.

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                  But acting like Israel’s carpet bombing of Gaza is like a force of nature is weird as well, no? The way you say it, it sounds like Hamas took the hostages into the path of a Hurricane. Was it so clear to everyone that Israel wouldn’t give a shit about the hostages and would be bombing Gaza indiscriminately?

                  • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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                    1 year ago

                    If Israel was carpet bombing Gaza, we would have a million dead civilians now. I don’t know why y’all need to make shit up.

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        So what you’re telling us is that both sides have equal blame in this terrorist attack that took the lives of so many civilians?

        I can agree with that, it’s reasonable