Age Verification | United States Department of Justice
www.justice.gov

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 8/EFTA00025010.pdf

Witness Information First Name: Donald Middle Name: Last Name: Trump Age: 70 DOB: Additional Info: Again, just trying to find out the NYPD detective on the FBI sex trafficking task force that called me a couple of weeks ago and spoke to me about some of these issues. How is Contact Known: He participated regularly in paying money to force me to [REDACTED] with him and he was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    411·
    4 months ago
    • This is from 2016 and testimony. She was threatened and then she disappeared. This had a witness that was willing to support her testimony.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRZa_cVshcI

    • He was found to be guilty of rape in a civil trial
    • He’s creepy with the pageant children in his care and bragged about walking in on them while they were changing
    • He’s creepy with his daughter and said he would date her if she wasn’t his daughter
    • He said Epstein is great guy and they’re alike. Also, Epstein likes them young
    • He was best friends with Epstein and flew with him multiple times, once with just epstein and one of the victims

    I believe the tip line until proven otherwise.

    • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      4 months ago

      It’s like 99% certain he used the “services”, and probably helped the pipeline of new victims.

      However the specifics of a web tip submitted in August 2020 in the height of a campaign should still be, itself, treated with some skepticism. There are indications that hopefully there’s corroborating material to the tip that is absolutely worth searching for, but by itself, we should be cautious.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        53·
        4 months ago

        Why do we have to give him the benefit of the doubt? He’s sending US citizens to be tortured in Salvadorian prisons and they have no rights. He’ll get the same benefit of the doubt he gives those people.

        • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
          81·
          4 months ago

          Because we don’t have to indulge in untrustworthy accounts because there’s so much concrete material to work with.

          To open things up for unsubstantiated accounts we are inclined to believe is to undermine ourselves when calling out those sources when they are not consistent with the truth on other matters.

          This should absolutely be kicking off efforts to substantiate the indicated events in the tip. But we shouldn’t act as if someone getting a tip into a web form is automatically a fact.

          • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            31·
            4 months ago

            Meh, I go with the odds:

            • This is from 2016 and testimony. She was threatened and then she disappeared. This had a witness that was willing to support her testimony.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRZa_cVshcI

            • He was found to be guilty of rape in a civil trial
            • He’s creepy with the pageant children in his care and bragged about walking in on them while they were changing
            • He’s creepy with his daughter and said he would date her if she wasn’t his daughter
            • He said Epstein is great guy and they’re alike. Also, Epstein likes them young
            • He was best friends with Epstein and flew with him multiple times, once with just epstein and one of the victims

            I believe the tip line until proven otherwise.

            • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
              31·
              4 months ago

              We can go with those more well vetted sources until someone finds something to substantiate this tip.

              If we go by unverified tips submitted to the FBI website, then we probably could get quite a few tips from 2016 alleging they saw Hilary Clinton going into the pizzagate place, ordering extra cheese, and walking out with a trafficked kid.

              Here it’s more plausible as it is more consistent with Epstein and Trump and all, but in an open tip line, it’s just a mess