• ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Are you claiming that the files released by the Department of Justice are fabricated?

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      4 months ago

      We know that he is accused of having been complicit and a witness to infanticide, which is perhaps easy shadenfreude to believe but accusations are not proof of wrongdoing. Sadly, if it is true, we need a lot more than a record of conversation with a victim about events occurring 40 years ago.

      • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 months ago

        Does it .after?

        Like, does this one being true or not change anything?

        Is killing a baby for the evulz really out of character? Like, if there’s a person where you can say ‘he killed a baby just to get rid of the evidence if the girl he raped’ and everyone says ‘yeah that makes sense he would do that. Killing a baby to cover up pedophilia sounds so him, that’s in line with how he behaves most days. I’d be shocked if he hadn’t killed a few babies to cover up little girls he raped, now that I think about it.’ does it even matter if he killed the baby?

        I feel like it doesn’t. I feel like this hypothetical person was already so far past the moral event horizon that they needed to be swinging from a tree years ago. Sorting out specific crimes is something we can manage posthumously.

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          4 months ago

          All proven offenses are supposed stack up, as if crimes proven true or not even matter in the context of Trump. That is the bigger problem: Trump is not held accountable for true crimes. It makes the unprovable crimes almost irrelevant

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            4 months ago

            The proven offenses stack high enough they’re giving us Kessler syndrome.

            If nobodys going to do shit, what is the point of proving things to a high standard?

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              4 months ago

              Because it’s better to not regress as a society into a worse mob than we already are. No standards for Trump sets a precedent for no standards for anybody

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                4 months ago

                But if nobody’s going to do shit, what are you actually doing? What is the difference between guilty and innocent? Aren’t you just making the two converge?

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                  4 months ago

                  We are talking about an unprecedented event in the history of the US Federal government. How we get out of this and how Trump gets held accountable before he dies is not something anyone has had to figure out before. I would hope that the total erosion of justice for all is not the way

                  • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    4 months ago

                    Nah they figured it out. The framers of the us constitution said some shit about watering the tree of liberty. The French figured out specific solutions in the 90s, the Russians modernized them a century later.

                    You just want daddy to do it for you. You are the reason nothing’s getting done.

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      4 months ago

      I’m saying we can’t know why the fuck is real in them. They’ve had them so long that they could have been doctored in god knows how many ways.

      Do I believe they out here killing babies? Not without proof no.

      • Donjamos@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        And why exactly would they have put that in there while doctoring the files?